View Full Version : 4/24/08 REPORTS: KS/NE/IA
fplowman
04-25-2008, 12:41 AM
Shot for the southern target. Set up in ST. John, Ks. waiting for the CAP to break. Arrived there around 5pm. Guess what? It never happened. Went back to KC.
Looks like there was a late show on the northern target. The Threatnet radar showed a healthy storm N. of Oakley. It is still going, moving east at the time of this post.
4 busts this year so far. Right around 3k miles. Todays chase was about 500 miles. Oh well maybe next time. Hey, gas is cheap!
Ryan McGinnis
04-25-2008, 12:55 AM
Drat -- admins, this thread poppsed up right as I posed mine. :) I'll post my report here if you could kill the other thread. Thanks!
Pics later.
Chased today with Darren Addy in Kansas. Started out in Kearney, dropped down to Arapahoe, then down to Norton. Saw the initiation atop Goodland and slid over a county to Atwood to try to get in place for it to come over top of us. Didn't look too impressive from Atwood Then the thing split and took a right turn; we backtracked to Oberlin and then south to the Seldon intersection to try to get underneath it. About that time it started to go crazy-go-nuts, and took on the appearence of a bit of a mothership -- we couldn't see much of it, because we were right under it. It put down a few very organized wall clouds before we had to jet east and then south to Hoxie to avoid getting run over by the thing. Lots and lots of outflow on it; continued looking like a mothership. We stopped a few times, snapped a few more photos, and followed it east. We stopped briefly somewhere west of Hill City to snap a few shows of the DOW armada; the key to the DOW armada, though, is to leave BEFORE they do, otherwise you get stuck behind their redonkulous convoy, as we did. Not cool when the softballs are on their way and you need to drive fast. :) We got to Hill City, went atop a hill south of the town, and snapped a few photos of the city while we wondered if they were going to take a hit. Luckily, they didn't. After that we called it a night and drove home. That super is still tearing across Kansas as I type this -- that one HECK of a long lived cell, originally intercepted at around 6:30 or 7, STILL chasing it at 10:30PM, and it's still chugging along at midnight.
No tubes, but a GREAT chase. :)
It was nice to see a good, LONG lived storm.
Tony Laubach
04-25-2008, 01:15 AM
No amount of wishcasting in the world was going to save the southern target, and the clearing skies along with the newly warned Goodland storm made us bolt back to the west where I intercepted the cell just to the southeast of Colby as the first tornado warning was issued.
I stayed with the cell through Hill City and finally abandoned it on KS-18 and stopped in Hays for the night.
Near Rexford, I observed a wall cloud and a pair of dust columns that looked suspicious. I ended up in strong RFD and followed Roger Hill back to US Hwy 24 on a series of dirt roads that were being taken out by the very strong RFD winds.
Continued east on Hwy 24 stopping a few times to snap some structure shots before blasting into Hill City for the sole purpose of beating someone to the car washes. Was hearing reports of softball hail and thought it would be better to observe that UNDER a shelter. The storm, which was moving southeast at the time, turned more easterly and stayed primarily north of town. Meanwhile, sirens were blasting and emergency crews driving through the neighborhoods on their loud speakers instructing residents to take cover.
Continued east on Hwy 24 where I did battle with a helacious core. Hail up to golfball size and winds easily approaching the 70mph mark hammered me near Bogue, Kansas. I got just east of there and stopped to turn around when the wind driven rain and hail were becoming too much. I let the hell pass and went back to Hwy 18 where I followed along with the storm through Palco and Plainville before electing to call it a night and head to Hays.
I was hearing reports of possible tornadoes, and as I write this, the thing is still warned for tornadoes, but the after dark experience and insanity it brought was good enough for me. I also elected to save me the five hours of drive time back home and crash out for the night here.
All-in-all, an exciting chaseto be had. The move to stay further west and split the north/south difference paid off dividends. After we left Ness City and got to Wakeeney, I was a bit frustrated that the southern target wasn't going to go. The storms that fired were in pretty weak SE flow, so I wasn't overly impressed with the tornado chances. In the end, it turned out very well as it was certainly the storm of the day.
Pics and vid caps to come soon.
Van DeWald
04-25-2008, 02:32 AM
Intercepted the second warned cell west of Atwood, KS by early evening where I was treated to a 1" hail core, and then hail-covered hills and a beautiful rainbow on the west side.
http://vansvault.org/stormtrack/080424_IMG_0792.jpg
Then I shot south of Atwood, but by this time, was on the west side of the hook. Met up with UNL students and hauled east on dirt roads to intercept the wall cloud. Never did see a tornado, but we heard this very weird sound, as if a sound engineer were adding those wind-type howling/growling effects that you heard in Twister. I've never heard it before, and it just kept getting louder and louder. This was just northwest of Rexford immediately as the storm went tornado warned (the same storm that continues even at this hour over eastern Kansas). Immediately after that eery howling sound, we got blasted with 50 to 60 mph RFD winds and a horrendous dust storm and got back in the car.
http://vansvault.org/stormtrack/080424_IMG_0799.jpg
We jetted east to about 1 mile north of Rexford and grabbed this shot.
http://vansvault.org/stormtrack/080424_IMG_0802.jpg
Again, getting blasted by RFD dust just after this. Ahead about 1/2 mile, we did see inflow dust being sucked up into the storm (contrast enhanced image below to make out the inflow dust), but then that was it.
http://vansvault.org/stormtrack/080424_IMG_0803.jpg
After this, we couldn't find a good route east that wouldn't send us through the softball size core. By then, it was dusk, and my LASIK eyes just current see the dirt roads well enough, whether they were passable or not so I bagged. I did follow the storm further east on paved roads, following just behind on US24 as it moved through Hoxie, Moreland, Hill City, Bogue, and Stockton, eventually just 1 or 2 miles behind the meso past Hill City to Stockton. Let it continue east past Stockton as I headed north for Kearney and eventually home.
Summary: A great chase, will be about 900 miles round trip when I get home tomorrow. Was also my first chase with Alltel Data. Had a connection about 95% of the time, so can't really complain about that at all.
Mike Hollingshead
04-25-2008, 03:33 AM
Was on the nw KS storm most of its life. The best part of the chase I guess is just the evolution of the thing. I wasn't liking what I saw when it was moving north on radar, but the updraft base looked like it was forming se of the old one(all rather high based yet). I flip around and watch it form/move se after all that. Also watched the cell just sw of it merge. Really cool stuff. As it merged, after turning hard se, it had a long inflow band going se, and strange fanning formations east of it going west into it...lowest beavertail there was convective for a bit. Inflow winds began raging nw of Hoxie. And so began the dust in teh contacts fest. It then had scooping dust plumes, and a big wall cloud, but the wall cloud was on the wrong side of the cut.
Beat it through Hill City as the radio made it sound like the city was going to vanish. Poor Hill City police department, as they had a pretty good group of chasers again tonight. I agree with Ryan...gotta beat the dow gang. I never saw them the whole chase till Hill City. Never saw that many chasers really. But boy they had a line behind them.
I had a decent view twice from the east of it, west of Hill City and east of Hill City, and if there was any tornado, it was extremely rain wrapped. Had a pretty good looking curl in there.
I decide to just stay ahead and get going home. Then while getting gas in Osborne KS I hear the 80mph softballs warning/report for Stockton and east. I was like, sweet. I decided to stay in Osborne and let it get me there. It was tornado warned again as it moved over, but it was a big shelf. Thing was it had really strong inflow winds up to the moment the shelf was on you. It was also peppering me with small hail well ahead of it. Then a giant stone smacks my car somewhere and scares the crap out of me. I don't know how big they got, but looked like sporadic baseballs bouncing in teh mix, and the occasional very loud thud somewhere on the car. Winds picked up with them, but probably only to the 60mph range.
I then try to get that room I saw, but of course no one is working any longer. Sigh! Head to Smith Center, and get slammed by high winds on the way from taht other storm. Then see power flashes near the city. Then get hit by what must have been pushing 80mph winds. Ain't looked at my car yet, but there's likely tumbleweed damage, lol. That or something else big hit it hard. The car took a fair beating today between those and teh hail. Anyway, get to Smith Center, late, and sure enough, no one workign at the small motels. I get a second wind on the way to Hastings, but it doesn't last long. Once you lose that second wind, as far as staying awake driving, you are toast. 2:30 now and just got a room in Hastings. Screw driving 3 more hours. Probably would have tried if it weren't for all that freaking blowing dirt residing on my contacts now.
It really was a nice supercell. It just lost a lot of its good visual looks by Hill City. At Osborne it seemed to get it's act together again just east of town. After the big hail, there was a really nice view of the vigorous updraft....thought a little sprinkly. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Edit: I was wondering how long lived that supercell was, and it appears to have had supercell characteristics from 23:30z to 6:30z.....7 hours. I'm a little amazed it was able to tornado near Beloit, after letting it pass over me in Osborne. I can see the structure of the thing from the west side as it lead into that happening...in some stills I shot looking east. The structure I can make out makes me believe it likely was indeed a tornado...or at least very well could have been. Radar representation was strong at that time too. Evidently this is the year I let storms go, so the can immediately tornado(back to back now).
Early 3 hours radar from Goodland (http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KGLD&prod=bref1&bkgr=black&endDate=20080425&endTime=3&duration=3)
3 hour loop starting at the end time of the Goodland one, but from Hastings (http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KUEX&prod=bref1&bkgr=black&endDate=20080425&endTime=6&duration=3).
Bob Schafer
04-25-2008, 04:29 AM
I targeted around McCook NE, and a nice storm (according to radar) went up WSW of there, but the roads simply would not cooperate. So, as everything evolved, I made 62 U-turns as I kept changing my mind about what to do.
Then the stuff that came out of CO went nuts, so I went after it, only to have it on my @$$ for the next 3 hours. Shades of May 27, 2001, as I did U-turn 63, drove 80 mph trying to escape the muther, and still I couldn't get away from it. I NEVER crunched as much tumbleweed before as today, by a factor of a lot. Every freaking 30 minutes, just when I thought I had escaped, I look at the radar and there's another "hook" 5 miles to my SW.
So, long after sunset, I decide I haven't endured enough for the day, and decide to go chase the "Hill City" (or whatever) storm, which I did for another few hours. I got as far as Minneapolis (KS), now with my gas gauge almost on "E", and could not find a gas pump that was "pay at the pump 24/7". I had been looking for an hour.
Now I have no clue where I am. Somewhere S of Salina.
I probably won't know where I am tomorrow night, either.
Dick McGowan
04-25-2008, 05:05 AM
Started out the day trying to target south and ended up being as disappointed as everyone else who was down there. Moved back north and intercepted the storm near Hill City and ended up seeing one probable tornado around Stockton. Then seemed to never be able to get ahead of the storm again. Saw a powerflash when the big tornado near Beloit was happening but we couldn't make it out from behind and ended the chase east of Concordia about 2.
It was pretty interesting driving by deployed DOW probes thinking...'oh *****!'. Hopefully they got some good data as a funnel cloud moved over the road about 30 seconds after that.
Doug Mitchell
04-25-2008, 06:48 AM
Best screencap I could get of the report 4 S of Stockton, looking north from somewhere a few miles north of Plainville, KS. 2 grungy funnels, the one on the right persisted for about 20-30 seconds per my film, the one of the left lasted about 45 seconds. The one on the right may have briefly touched down before the screen shot as it was about 3/4ths of the way to the ground. The second one maybe have been on the ground for as long as 30 seconds, was much better defined after this screenshot and showed some signs of multiple suctions. I'm not sure if the whole thing was part of one circulation but it was definitely rotating hard. The DOWs must've gotten incredible data of this seeing that they were practically right under this feature as it passed over 183.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/mitch445/plainville.jpg
J.B. Dixon
04-25-2008, 09:39 AM
Similar experiences to everyone else it sounds like. I intercepted the cell south of Oberlin just as it was beginning to evolve into something substantial. It just seemed like it was in a spot early on where low-level shear just wasn't all there. When I got to the cell, SPC meso showed a pocket of 250+ 01 KM shear in the North Platte area (zip in this cell's area....kinda what we were afraid of all day), and from the way this cell looked at the time, I could believe it. It just looked like it was mising something. I sat east of Seldon for a while and got some good video as the meso really began to crank. What a beautiful vault that thing had.
About this time I made what could've been a very bad decision. Playing the time & travel game, I decided since the cell was taking a right turn, I would head E instead of S towards Hoxie. I just didn't want to make my return trip any longer than it already would be, and I was already satisfied with what I had seen. Inflow winds were raging, as I plowed through tumbleweeds like I was playing a video game, and losing. I knew I had to get out in front of the core, but I wasn't sure I would make it. Panic set in when I see Mike Umscheid turn around in front of me. No turning back now, I was eastbound and down.
After a few plunks of quarter-sized hail, I feared the worst. Fortunately, I made it out. 15 minutes later, reports of baseball-sized hail came in at about that very same location. I should've probably just sucked it up and headed south to Hoxie then towards Hill City, but like Mike H. elluded to, I knew the drive home would be a lot more dangerous than the actual chase, just from fatigue (and deer....they were everywhere!).
Fun chase. Wasn't sure if I had it in me to go that far west after leaving Lincoln at 3:00 PM. I'm glad I did. I'll chalk it up to a successful first chase of the season. Great structure and evolution when that jet kicked in. Timed it just right.
Mike Umscheid
04-25-2008, 09:49 AM
I was able to leave work right at 4pm for yesterday's chase. As I posted in the FCST thread, the area I was most interested in was along and north of US-24 to Nebraska. I met up with Tony Laubach and Verne Carlson for a short time east of Ness City as some cumulus were somewhat intriguing at the nose of a small scale mixed-out warm plume where convergence was locally maximized. I told myself that if the Cu didn't look any better in 45 minutes, I would bolt northwest where I was extremely confident there would be a sustained surface based severe storm where the deep tropospheric forcing was much better across Northwest KS. The first storms were developing with some decent echoes aloft around Goodland, and at that point, I continued north to Wakeeney, then northwest to Hoxie, to my first stopping point south of Rexford. The southern storm had some nice shape to it and appeared to be supercellular, but it was small. Of interest at the time was a larger mass of convective updraft due north. These two storms merged northwest of Rexford, and the storm really took off. Of course, it was getting well into the evening by this point, but the supercell structure was quite fine...although high based. The westernmost portion of the storm revealed an interesting lowered feature, which I guess you could call a wall cloud, but there was a lot of outflow dust beneath it looking roughly west from near Hwy 23-83 junction at Seldon. It was too dark for handheld photography, so I tried my best to get the tripod setup for some 1-3 second wide angle exposures amidst strong east inflow winds and blowing dust.
Now, idiot me, I continued east on Hwy 9, instead of joining the masses heading south on 23 to Hoxie. I guess I was expecting the storm to move more due east...and from my perspective due east of the storm, the structure was pretty good from a photography standpoint. After somehow successfully dodging all the giant tumbleweeds in the howling northeast winds, I stopped briefly about 6 W New Almelo for more long-exposure photography on the tripod before I began to get pelted by quarter-size hail. Looking to the west-southwest, the supercell structure looked pretty darn good from this vantage point on Highway 9, so the decision to head east instead of south I guess wasn't so bad after all. Of course, by the time I got far enough east to reach a south option again at Hwy 283, it was dark, and there was little if any decent lightning illuminated structure. I reached Hill City amidst blaring tornado sirens, continuing south hopefully far enough south to get out of the cloud canopy so I can get a nice distant view of supercell structure. It really wasn't to be. I did stop at a high spot south of Hill City where other spotters and chasers also stopped, but by this time, the supercell circulation was east of Hill City. There were a lot of lightning illuminated "hangy downies" just west of where the radar had strongest rotation near Hill City. There was nothing more to shoot of interest photography wise, so I headed south towards Wakeeney in hopes that maybe a very distant view of the storm could be interesting, but even that wasn't all that was cracked up to be, so I continued to Wakeeney, ate dinner, and headed home. A fun little chase. Below are a few images (all 12mm wide angle):
looking west from near Seldon as the supercell updraft was fairly close.
http://www.underthemeso.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008-04/20080424_2023.jpg
looking due west from junction of Hwy 23 & 123 about 2 miles south of Leoville.
http://www.underthemeso.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008-04/20080424_2029.jpg
looking west-southwest from Hwy 9 about 6 miles west of New Almelo.
http://www.underthemeso.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008-04/20080424_2045.jpg
Mike U
afischer
04-25-2008, 09:50 AM
Departed KC at 11am and after a couple data stops reached Norton KS at 5pm. Headed southwest shortly after to a point south of Oberlin to watch convection evolve coming out of the Goodland vicinity. The nondescript lead cell did a fujiwara N then NW of the trailing stuff. Dropped south farther still to keep track of the tail end of the convection. Surface winds were responding and decent... easterly at 10-15kts. It looked like the tail end wanted to develop some fairly stout structure with cellular characteristics, and a couple of neat inflow bands. At ~810pm someone "flipped the switch", and inflow began absolutely howling westward into this thing. Watched a high contrast wall cloud form (like Van's, but from the other side) from an intersection northeast of Seldon KS... the storm was looking impressive considering 75/48 at the surface. Outflow began to undercut the updraft via large sheets of dirt lofted ahead of it. I was too busy trying to beat the storm to Hill City to look at it much, but when I did it looked like a typical HP with a huge precip dump. From south of Hill City I watched some cloud base lowerings, but looked like mostly scud south of a rain-wrapped meso. With the storm seemingly weakening and heading east into a wretched road network, I let it go. A little disappointed to have missed the crazy tornado 2.5 hours later, but the idea I could have reacquired a decent view and then stuck with it through the wastelands of Rooks, Osborne, and Mitchell counties is doubtful at best. Good first chase of the year. Too bad richer moisture didn't back up a little farther west per the morning models... could have been very interesting.
Shane Adams
04-25-2008, 11:54 AM
Had McDonald's in Blackwell, OK. Sat in Anthony, KS for about three hours, watching the spotter network page and laughing at everybody else who hadn't moved in over three hours, waiting in vain. Figured there might be something after dark north, but said "screw it" as we've had enough night chases where we're in danger with zero payoff of actually getting to see what's gonna kill us. Was back home in time to see a few radar loops of the NC Kansas storm, and could truthfully say "I'm glad we left early". I knew we were in trouble when MikeU mentioned subsidence waaay early on yesterday's forecast thread, and all day long as I sat baking I kept hearing his words..."I will be humbled if there's a supercell in that area today/tonight." Well U, worry you not...there was none.
I figured this was worthy of a post, because in this day and age where chasing is so ridiculously-easy, it's a bigger deal when chasers bust than when they see tornadoes LOL. A clear sky bust once in a while is good for the soul.
Darren Addy
04-25-2008, 12:13 PM
Terrific chase day on a very long-lived supercell. I had feared that the biggest problem would be choosing the right target from among many, but it wasn't a real issue since it was (in effect) the Tail End Charlie that started the initiation west of Goodland and went on to become the Show of the Day.
It was strange to me that it appeared to be on a North-Northeast vector while everything else was moving to due NE, but it soon split and the majority of the storm took a hard right while it was overrun by the storm from behind. We weren't sure how that would affect it, but it just appeared to bulk up and then start to reel in the moisture feeding into it from the E-SE.
We wanted to get E/SE of it without getting cored and it looked like we were going to make it when the wall cloud formed (in a matter of a minute or two, it seemed).
http://144.216.6.33/wallcloud04252008/forming.jpg
http://144.216.6.33/wallcloud04252008/formed.jpg
Coulda sworn it was gonna produce. This was just north of Seldon/Rexford, looking west from the highway.
I wish I could have gotten some shots of this, (and should have told Ryan to take it with his superwide) but where this shot was taken we have driven under the inflow beavertail which is feeding into the storm from almost due east. We are just a bit south of it in the pics and shooting west. But you could actually see inflow condensation at different levels on this storm. There was another from the E-SE and another (higher) from the SE. The moisture was apparently deep and this storm, from the east side looked like a giant pinwheel with (what appeared to be) three separate inflow bands at different heights. You could literally see where the helicity was coming from. That was amazingly cool, in itself.
We (along with others) feared for Hill City, as it appeared to be on a direct path but the storm changed directions (yet again) and Hill City lives to see another day as it passed just north of town.
Since home was almost due north of us and we were more than satisfied with the day, we headed for home. By the time we reached Norton the storm was due east of us again. Apparently, the cell wanted to see SE Nebraska before it gave up the ghost. Haven't yet figured out if this was the cell associated with the apparent Nebraska tornado in Johnson.
Looking forward to seeing chase partner Ryan O'Ginniss' pics when they show up at his blog (http://backingwinds.blogspot.com). (Mine were taken with a crappy little Canon point & shoot, as if you couldn't tell).
http://144.216.6.33/wallcloud04252008/formed_4.jpg
Darren Addy
Kearney, NE
Michael O'Keeffe
04-25-2008, 01:33 PM
Drove down I35 with a target west of Wichita, got to El Dorado saw things weren't happening turned around and went home. What a waste of gas and money. This season for us personally has taken a toll with numerous bust. I'm praying we have an active May and June when we could actually see one or two widespread tornado outbreaks. Which seems likely as most La Nina years do tend to be late bloomers across the Plains.
Tim Marshall
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
SHORT: Target was Pratt, KS. Saw a few towers and nice antique stores in Wichita.
LONG: Kay and I headed up I-35 from Dallas and stopped short of the target in Wichita. It was cool and cloudy there with towers ALQDS. I saw those mid-90 temps in W OK behind the dryline and the MCD issued for OK, so we stayed put. My wife decided to shop antique stores and then we had an early dinner. I saw the cap would prevail and headed back to Dallas. A long way to go for scrap metal and dinner. TM
Dustin Wilcox
04-25-2008, 03:06 PM
Will be brief, school work is piling up, full write up and pics on my site by end of weekend. Was on the Hill City storm basically from it's true birth (after watching the previous storm move North). Watched it get its act together just before dark, and then stuck with it all the way to East of Osborne, about 12:30 a.m. or so. I believe the 4.25 Hail report in Stockton is bogus, unless it was outside of town (not what report says) I sat under bank overhang and let the core over take me in Stockton nothing larger than MAYBE golfballs, albeit wind driven. I did come across 2.00 hail NW of Osborne. The storm really looked it's best near and just to the East of Osborne. Due to some mud I had to let it go about 10 miles East of Osborne.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/dwunl68/foming0011.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/dwunl68/wall0012.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/dwunl68/wall10013.jpg
I took a few pics at night as well that I will have to sort through and see how they turned out...
Doug_Kiesling
04-25-2008, 03:50 PM
I chased the eastern side of the setup in Iowa yesterday and was forecasting for the Dows Iowa area. That's Dows as in the town, not the chaser traveling carnival...
Anyway, was hoping for something right around sunset and it fired up right around the dark. It was a fun chase as the TVS ended up right on top of me but the visibility was poor and the storms were not photogenic with the lcl pretty much at a couple hundred feet.
Posted some vid caps on my blog
http://www.lightningboy.net/content/tornado-chase-last-night-winter-storm-tonight (http://www.lightningboy.net/content/tornado-chase-last-night-winter-storm-tonight)
Tornado chasing last night, winter storm tonight and I'm not in Colorado...
Mike Hollingshead
04-25-2008, 05:25 PM
I wish I could have gotten some shots of this, (and should have told Ryan to take it with his superwide) but where this shot was taken we have driven under the inflow beavertail which is feeding into the storm from almost due east. We are just a bit south of it in the pics and shooting west. But you could actually see inflow condensation at different levels on this storm. There was another from the E-SE and another (higher) from the SE. The moisture was apparently deep and this storm, from the east side looked like a giant pinwheel with (what appeared to be) three separate inflow bands at different heights. You could literally see where the helicity was coming from. That was amazingly cool, in itself.
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2008/08-4-24-3189.jpg
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2008/08-4-24-3192.jpg
You are right, those were really cool. Gotta love the 10mm!
Earlier, not much earlier, it had a long one going southeast off the se side of the base.
http://www.extremeinstability.com/stormpics/2008/08-4-24-3184.jpg
I have a better image of it while driving while it was thinner. An updraft looked to have formed on that and fed nw up into the storm. That lightning bolt was luck, since I don't have a lightning trigger and that was 1/60th shutter.
More later, probably a couple days. Guessing I'll post a video of the hail and high speed, car sized, car trashing tumbleweeds.
Wesley Luginbyhl
04-25-2008, 08:57 PM
Though a storm never did fire along the dryline, I still saw tornado damage (it was just about a year old though). After watching the few clouds that were along the dryline completely vanish, we ventured back behind the dryline to go see Greensburg. By the time we left for home the dryline had moved west of us there. Seeing Greensburg was far more interesting than most the chases I have been on this year so far. There is still so much work to be done there. In the picture, notice the completely clear sky, not what I was hoping for yesterday. The NAM and GFS, know what they are doing (somewhat), and the RUC with all that precip does not.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/not_a_leader_of_men/DSC_0041.jpg
Jerry Funfsinn
04-25-2008, 10:55 PM
I intercepted the cell in NW Kansas just NW of Hoxie. It had a nice wall cloud when I encountered it with strong SE winds. The wall
cloud was soon undercut by outflow and it shifted away from me as fast as I could drive toward it. I abondoned it and headed east towards what was
lurking under those inflow tails. I could make out a wall cloud in poor contrast but soon lost this feature to huge dust plumes. I continued east
watching under the meso during lightning flashes.A visible clear slot developed and I could just make out something between illumination. I stayed to long to look
as hurricane winds approached and blinded my visiblity to drive away. Well I got MUNCHED by this storm because I took the first road I could see and became stuck in the mud. I can't
verify the softball report but it soon rained baseballs.It took a good half hour to navigate that liquid snot road but I did come back upon the cell just
west of Hill City. I waited for the storm to clear my path and then proceeded towards home.
Burned out after 2700 miles, but did manage to chase the tor warned cells today in the QCA as I was passing through there.
Video of the chase is posted on my website (http://www.creativejetstream.com).
http://www.creativejetstream.com/pictures/2HoxieKS4_24_08.jpg
Nortwest of Hoxie KS.
http://www.creativejetstream.com/pictures/1TascoeKS4_24_08.jpg
Taken 2 miles north of Tasco KS at 0148Z looking north.
http://www.creativejetstream.com/pictures/3TascoeKS4_24_08.jpg
Verne Carlson
04-25-2008, 11:03 PM
http://www.stormchaserco.com/20080424_WW3_ColbyKS_3.jpg
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Started the day meeting up with Tony Laubach, Ryan Shepard and Skinner in Hays, KS were we repositioned to near Ness City and met up with Mike Umchied. Watched as CU struggled against the cap and shot up to Colby, KS when the cell coming out of Burlington, CO intensified.
I got one crazy flight in with the Wicked Witch 3 after repositioning three times to get ahead of the outflow winds north of Rexford, KS. The witch landed only 100 yards in front of me in a wheat field but it took me and a very helpful family stopping by twenty minutes to find it. With the help of their daughter I was able to recover the plane and the video!
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihXYVep6Dfw
Ryan McGinnis
04-26-2008, 01:36 AM
Here are the pics, as promised. All images courtesy of Flickr hosting (www.flickr.com (http://www.flickr.com)). I can merge this with my first post if that's what the admins want.
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Driving towards Atwood -- quite a rain foot on the storm at that time. Shot through the windshield.
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After we left Atwood; looking west as we drive south to try to get under it. This is the first wall cloud that formed (that we saw); it was amazing how fast it popped out of nowhere.
We pulled over about half way to Seldon and then near the Seldon intersection to sit back and enjoy the thing for a while:
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Not sure who's car that is, but he's probably reading this forum. :)
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The wallcloud got organizied again. We were on funnel/debris watch, but I'm pretty sure all the dust we saw was outflow.
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Sat at the Seldon intersection until it got pretty dark, then bopped east to Hill City, trying to beat getting cored.
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We ended the night by sitting atop a hill south of Hill City to watch the storm roll in and just barely miss coring the town as the storm took a last second left jog.
Great chase to start the season! :)
Darrin Rasberry
04-26-2008, 10:18 AM
Target: My house in Ames, Iowa, once again.
Setup and Expectation: Before I left to teach my Calc II class at 5 PM, I glanced at the RUC to see if the evening was worth chasing/local spotting. Observing the latest DMX soundings revealed some low-level CAPE, slow but nonetheless backing winds, okay helicity, and ~800m base (ick). Thinking there was a minimal but definite tornado potential, I decided to head out to a SVR warned cell near Jefferson.
Description: I drove forty miles to Jefferson, using my cell phone's dinky radar and NWS warnings to estimate a path for the hail core, which I wanted to intercept. The storm remained SVR for the entire length of the journey, and stayed SVR over our position.
The cell seemed to divide in two at first, splitting up to the west of Jefferson, with the non-warned northern portion taking on some vague HP characteristics. I was close to heading south of the area to intercept the core, but noticed what I thought to be a lowering on the SE edge of the northern portion. I turned north and took some brief footage of that instead, and, idiotically, got way too close, thinking it was probably nothing more than crap that my inexperience was chalking up to wishing.
When it was around a mile away or so, it lowered into what I thought was a bowl. Just as the Good Lord intended, my Hi-8 tape ran out while I thought I was still recording, so I didn't catch that portion on tape, but my roommate snapped some photographs of the bowl. After rewinding my tape and cursing my luck, I got my camera to record again, and right on cue the mysterious lowering dissipated within the span of five minutes.
As with every single one of my other chases apart from the total bust on the seventh, my cell phone went out when the sun went down. Not even over the Northern Missouri hellhole have I seen a red 'x' with an SOS above it, but it was nonetheless fun to see that one. My new Radio Shack portable HAM/Severe WX radio apparently has a battery life of an hour, because that went out too even though it was fully charged - that one is taking a quick trip back to the mall tonight for an exchange.
So even though we were in some clear territory, we had no idea what the weather situation was at the time the sun went down, so we played it safe back down to Jefferson and got an update that the most severe portion of our storm was now headlining the newly-formed mesofail tour of Central Iowa. A portion of the MCS became TOR twenty miles north of Ames, and I could have intercepted the hook, but another sinus-infected migraine led me home instead.
Conclusion: Just because your home state has flunked the interesting tornado exam for the past eight years doesn't mean you should assume something ominous is crap. It may have indeed been crap, but I will post the pictures I have of it in a DISC thread to get some more experienced opinions, as per the guidelines.
Andrew Stoller
04-27-2008, 01:46 PM
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Not sure who's car that is, but he's probably reading this forum. :)
The would be me! :) So I guess my account is essentially the same as yours Ryan.
I started out in Goodland as the cumulus field that developed there was decent and the high based storm formed around Burlington. To the east, another cell initiated and quickly went severe with golfball hail, so I headed east on 70, then north at Colby and essentially stayed on the southern fringe of all the convection. I started heading northeast more but realized the southern cell was going right mover big time. I passed Mike Hollingshead I believe (newer Mustang??), and flipped a bird and headed back south to the spot above and was amazed as well how fast the wall cloud formed. Equally as quickly, it seemed to occlude or got undercut and directly above me to the southwest, it looked like a new meso/cell was initiating and it also looked like big time precip and hail was closing in from all directions, so I made the right decision and hauled the mail south towards Hoxie. Thank goodness too, since I believe golfballs to softballs were being reported at the position above and to the northeast.
As the new meso got ramped up north of Hoxie, it had a small clear slot and looked like for a brief half minute, a small fully condensed needle funnel formed.
The wall cloud really got low and organized east of Hoxie, so I creeped east behind it trying to stay far enough back and not get hooked. Reached the peak of a hill and videoed the wall cloud/meso as it went right over Hill City. There's one spot in my video where the wall cloud became very structured with a raggedy funnel 3/4s to the ground. Never saw any power flashes, just insane lightning.
Then I hooked up with Mark Farnik and headed to Wakeeny for the night.
All in all, a great chase day, and I'm really getting the hang of chasing. The biggest thing I've learned in my virgin chase career is PATIENCE. Don't crap out, even if only a severe thunderstorm watch is issued, as tornado/storm structure potential is still there.
Kory Hartman
04-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Sorry it took me so long to contribute to the thread...
I left Mitchell, SD at 7:30 AM with an initial target of the NE/KS border somewhere southwest of Kearney, NE. After getting lunch and gas at Kearney, I headed south to Norton, KS. Spent a good chunk of the afternoon at the Prairie Dog State Park wondering if I was busting.
Finally, someone called and said "there's a cell with hail popping near Goodland!" (I couldn't see it at first... with my default color pallette on GRLevel3 it was in the clutter).
I really didn't want to go any further west with the very long drive home ahead, but the urge got the best of me and I'm glad I headed east on US-36.
Just west of Oberlin, KS, I could see very crisp bubbling cu to my southwest, This was actually a cell that was between me and the original Goodland cell. I decided to wait for a bit to see what it would do. At first, the storm was taking a straight north path so I eased west into Atwood. I could see on Roger Hill's Live ChaseCam that he was looking at a nice cell so I gave him a call. He confirmed that he was just south of me near Colby.
It was very surreal to watch a storm with your eyes from the north, and then look at your laptop to see what the same storm looks like from the south. I decided to drop a little south of Atwood. After about 20 minutes, I thought the the storm was going to get undercut by some other convection, so I opted to go back north into Atwood to see what was going on there. This was a mistake because as I was making that little 5 mile trip, the storm reformed, made a right-turn, and started heading away from me.
Radar was showing very large hail now and I did not want to punch through to the south again, so I took a chance on a gravel road that headed southeast out of Atwood. This put me in prime position to view several lowerings and a nice wall cloud/possible funnel near Achilles, KS (you'll have to zoom WAY in on Google Maps to find it). I believe Goodland NWS issued the first TOR based on my report and what the live video feed looked like. Again, a great use of the SevereStudios ChaseCam Network!!
I zig-zagged southeast on a horrible network of rutted, sloppy gravel roads, almost getting stuck a couple times, until I got to US-83 near Rexford. The hail core and rotation just kept gaining on me even though I was doing 50mph at times trying to get away. I was told by Goodland that I just missed softball size hail in Selden as I kept dropping south and east, south and east on gravel after gravel. I was pelted by golfballs and all sorts of dust, debris, and tumbleweeds as 65mph inflow hit me over and over. You can see the video at http://www.severestudios.com/node/385
I finally made it off the gravel and out of the hail near Hoxie and jumped on US-24, hoping to beat the storm to Hill City. I didn't make it. Between Morland and Penokee I could see a major wall cloud closing in on the highway and Hill City. Tired of the wind and hail, I opted to get south again on County Road 539 (another gravel). While sitting just southwest of Hill City, I saw power flashes very near US-24. Between that and the signature on radar, I thought Hill City was toast. Fortunately, the cell began to weaken a bit right over town and a tornado never dropped (that I know of).
After all the excitement, tired of gravel roads, and with darkness now completely in control, I headed for home. On my way back to Norton, KS, the cold front caught up to me. Temperatures dropped into the mid 30's and 60+ mph winds blew one of my cell antennas off my car. I fought wind and rain all the way from Norton, KS to Tyndall, SD. Couldn't believe that same cell lasted until almost 3AM and produced an EF-2 tornado later near Beloit, KS. I pulled into my driveway at 4:20 AM.
I loved every minute.
Mike Hollingshead
04-27-2008, 07:04 PM
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Full Account now up HERE (http://www.extremeinstability.com/08-4-24.htm).
afischer
04-28-2008, 12:44 PM
Brief chase account of the NW KS supercell: http://tornadohead.com/042408chase.htm
Mike Umscheid
04-29-2008, 12:35 AM
For those interested, I have a complete album of images with captions available now from my Northwest KS high-based supercell chase. Here's the Linky Dinky (http://www.underthemeso.com/Lightroom/2008Apr24)
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