5/13/09 DISC: MO/IA/IL/KS/OK

[Jim Saueressig]

I was out on this cell after it came through Emporia. I never seen any funnels or tornadoes but there was plenty of rotation in the scud and about. They sounded the sirens in New Strawn for a very brief funnel that would have been pretty much over my head as I was repositioning and then they started getting reports from the public of a tornado East of New Strawn a few minutes later. I went and got on the SE side of it and never seen a thing. I just found this video (http://www.kmbc.com/video/19455337/index.html) from the report that came in to the SO but I cannot identify the area. I threw a few pictures on my flickr but I am curious whether anyone else was actually in the area for this?

Edit: Who was the chaser that almost backed over Darin Brunin as they were being over taken by the tornado in Missouri? Made a nice news (13) video. LOL

[Bill Hark]

That was some amazing video by Bart Comstock. I am glad that he is allright. I also saw some wild video from "Tornado Tim" on The Weather Channel last night with flying horizontal debris near Kirksville, MO. Apparently Tim's map was off and he got trapped.

I am glad everyone is allright considering some close calls. I guess visibility was poor.

Bill Hark

[Jason Persoff]

Who's tornado Tim? Marshall??

[Chad Cowan]

The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.

EDIT: He took down the video... probably a good idea from a legal standpoint.

[Brandon Sullivan]

it was interesting to see the kirksville storm totally kill the one to the south. which IMO is not as common as the south cell robbing a northern one.. There was also a storm that fired right ahead of the kirksville storm..

i wonder if any of this could have set up a boundary that helped at all..

I was just in awe of the awesome wall cloud and great structure! Glad I was out there!

Great job to everyone who got up close and personal.. Our timing wouldnt really allow it, we had a tree line up ahead, that if we passed, we would be way too close, but had obscured video to stay back.. tough call...

TVN's Reed Timmer apparently got footage and radar scans from inside the kirksville tornado! I cant wait to see..

Another thing.. This is a HUUGE reason why Kirksville needs a radar, storm was on outer ring of every radar, and looked crummy on velocity...

[joel ewing]

Jason, "Tornado Tim" as he calls himself, is a chaser I believe out of Colorado. I've never met him. Obviously, he's NOT Tim Marshall....and his moniker is one that has always kinda chapped me...simply out of total respect to Tim Marshall.
In addition to him almost getting killed yesterday, the same thing happened to him on a storm that I was on near O'Neill Nebraska on 6-9-03. He was pinned with a huge dusty barrel right next to him. I've seen vid of this. This is one chaser that is chasing his third strike.
He does keep up a nice web site.

[richhorodner]

The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.

More and more people trying their "best" to kill themselves.

Only "bad" luck has delayed success to this point in time.

[Derrick Herndon]

So what are the chances that the law could go after this guy? I have to agree this is about the most irresponsible "chaser" I have seen. People like this that give us all a bad name.


The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.

[Eric Flescher]

What a day !
Target 5/13/09 : from Columbia to Kirksville - East or West
Team: Eric Flescher, James Seitz, Uday Verma

We went with our initial target after looking over forecasts etc. We headed further North from Columbia and decided to go even further North after stopping in Macon. We has lost a little time getting to Kirksville. We were in the McDonalds in Kirksville admiring some of the towers that were dissipating and wondering whether we were late and whether anything would now happen. We were inside the tornado watch area box. We saw some signs of promise but nothing outstanding as we waited.

Around 5:44, we heard that a trained spotter had seen a funnel near Novinger. We headed down the Highway 6 West towards Novinger.
We could see that this "funnel" was now a tornado as we peered through the road view between the trees as we headed West on HWy 6. It possibly just crossed the Highway but was now North of the Highway 6.
We stopped on a hill to get our best overlook as the tornado was headed East and fast. We positioned ourselves on the top of nice hill. We headed North past a home on the corner (I can't quite make out the street number) and stopped a few hundred yards north to get the best view as the tornado headed straight for us.
It was under a mile(?) a way from us and we had a ringside seat. It changed shape several time, then widened considerably. We had a real good look at for several minutes as I took the video ( I did not have enough time to get out my and Uday and James took photos. It was still heading for us and it was a getting a little too close.
This dangerous storm must have been only a few hundred yards away from us and was getting too close. We headed back South on the road on to HWY 6 East .
We stopped further East where there now chasers. We took shows of the tornado that was rainwrapped and heading just North of highway 6 took more video and pictures and sped into Kirksville.
We did not stay in Kirksville (where there was a lot of damage a little later) and tried to catch some more cells with rotation further East. We broke off and headed South toward Columbia and back to Kansas City, watching some nice lightning along the way.
I am writing this fast to get our account out now. James, Uday and I will write more later with photos etc. The video, more screen snaps, photos and account information on my Storm Satori (http://stormsatori-kcstormguy.blogspot.com) blog later today.

[Mike Hollingshead]

The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.


What is the gist of it, for those of us that don't have a facebook login.

[Brandon Goforth]

More and more people trying their "best" to kill themselves.

Only "bad" luck has delayed success to this point in time.

Indeed, that was ridiculously STUPID. That guy deserves a good a** kickin...I could care less if he kills himself, but weaving in and out of traffic at 115 mph puts everyone on that road at risk. What if you get hit by high winds, what if you have a blow out, anything could happen to turn that deadly fast. If ANYONE sees this kind of behavior on the road, seriously try to get it on film and get the license plate numbers if possible, then turn them in...tornado or no tornado, there is NO excuse for this behavior out there, especially when it's his choice to be there to begin with...we have to be getting really close to the point of seeing chaser fatalities...this kind of crap puts all of the responsible people at risk...he deserves a baseball bat to the head. :mad:

[Brandon Goforth]

What is the gist of it, for those of us that don't have a facebook login.

Basically he records himself driving 115 mph, weaving in and out of traffic, to get to a developing tornado...and then he drives into the tornado...brilliant. :rolleyes:

[Jason Boggs]

The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.

This guy isn't a chaser. He's a retard with a fast car and a video camera.

[Andrew Stoller]

What is the gist of it, for those of us that don't have a facebook login.

The dude passes a bunch of cars doing about 115 mph in his Camaro SS to catch up to the Kirksville tornado, then proceeds to get caught in the edge of the tornado/almost in it while saying his Camaro is faster then the tornado.

What a genius.

[Andrew Butler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5wmIP043Cc

Records his speed, then his face. Oh hai mister sheriff.

[Jacob Ferden]

The worst tornado chasing clip I have ever seen:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=116046000048&ref=share

I honestly can't think of anything he could have done worse. Really lucky that he didn't kill someone, I'm not too worried about his well-being. To top it off, this soul-patch wearin, Camaro drivin guy uploaded it for free to CNN's iReport who promptly (as they should) licensed it out to their affiliates. And.... flame away.

People wonder why some chasers express their opinions so strongly about the actions of others. How could anyone not be outraged to see this...i hesitate to use the word...person...endanger the lives of not one, not two, but DOZENS of people on the road yesterday. :mad: It's been building and building, but I think it can be said now: Someone will be killed soon...very soon. I just hope to god I'm not on the road when it happens...:(

[John Wetter]

There were a lot of people that made a lot of really poor decisions yesterday and then are posting their video... Being IN a tornado is not a good thing people! Not that some of these 'I'm in a tornado' clips are even from within a tornado but still...

For Mike, that video on FB (and also on YouTube) shows him driving 110mph down the road (he actually tapes the speedometer) and then shows him ending up in the outer circulation of the tornado and then turning the camera on himself and talking about how wonderful he is.

[Andrew Stoller]

The guy should have capped his video off with his estimated EF rating of the tornado.

[Wesley Luginbyhl]

Wow. Its one thing to speed, but to record the speedometer as you swerve through traffic almost killing numerous other drivers. Then getting hit by the tornado and being proud of it. After all that, actually posting it online and giving to CNN. Now that is epic fail. He should be on suicide watch.

This image sums it up.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/not_a_leader_of_men/idiot2.jpg

[Anthony Petito]

Is this the same guy? http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-258037

No access to Youtube or Facebook :(

[Rob Mitchell]

Is this the same guy? http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-258037

No access to Youtube or Facebook :(

Yep, same video. The FB video is 7.5 minutes long and shows him "in" the tornado as well as his personal interview at the end.

-RM

[Ryan McGinnis]

Yup, that's the same guy.

Not to pile on the guy, but the big thing that gets me isn't that he got caught in a tornado -- clearly he's in over his head and got caught out by his lack of experience. But recording yourself doing 120 passing 5 cars on a 2 lane with no shoulder really takes the cake. It's not just that he was driving recklessly, it was that he was actually taking time to make sure he documented the fact that he was driving recklessly. That to me should be worth a month or two in jail.

[Jim Saueressig]

It's to damn bad it didn't suck him up and drop him about 5 miles away at 200 mph and rid the world of another fookin idiot. You have to wonder what he cut out that he thought was to bad to post.

[Stephen Locke]

"
Michael Ambrosia at 11:31pm May 13
I think it was 115, but when there are tornadoes about, you gotta move! Thats when the camaro z28 ss comes in handy. BTW that was a cop that pulled over in front of me...I don't think he was ready to give me a ticket then ;-)"

[Andrew Stoller]

Obviously Mr. Ambrosia isn't a full on storm chaser, but having chased enough now for the last 4 years, I've seen PLENTY of well known big time storm chasers drive like it's the last lap of the Talladega 500, putting many peoples lives in jeopardy for their own gain without even batting an eye.

I've been doing 80 mph in a 65, and gotten passed like I was standing still!

[Steve Miller OK]

This is one of those times when using a video editor and maybe cutting a few scenes out, adding music or voiceover, etc. might have been a good idea. ha That COULD HAVE been great video when cut up. Why document recklessness? Why be reckless in the first place?
Wonder which network he will be working for next year?

[Brandon Goforth]

Wonder which network he will be working for next year?

LOL! We live in a world that demands and celebrates reckless behavior. :(

[Chris Hayes]

I just viewed his video on youtube and posted a text comment as a bit of a lecture. That was completely idiotic behavior, especially the driving. No damn reason to be going over 100mph on a 2 lane road to catch a ****ing tornado. Last I heard, there'll be more tornadoes. Maybe some more this year, but deffinately more next year. When it comes to being as close to the tornado and it, there's no reason for that either. This seems to be becoming a trend, with people being hit by tornadoes while chasing. Hell, I was getting a bit nervous when Quinter #1 was approaching us on I-70 till it began to rope out. We all want to get close, but not that close. I have yet to hear the "roar" of a tornado so when I get to chase again next year I'll try and get close but I'll know when its time to stop or turn around and haul ass out of there. This guy clearly needs to grow up and learn what chasing is all about, as well as the ethics of it.

[Andrew Stoller]

Why document recklessness? Why be reckless in the first place?
Wonder which network he will be working for next year?

MSNBC? They are very reckless. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/45.gif

[John Farley]

IMHO there was a lot of wreckless chasing yesterday. This case was the worst, because it combined extremely dangerous driving with getting too close. But there were others that got too close too, and what bothers me is that videos of "inside the tornado" with dust, rain, and/or debris pounding the car becomes 1) more and more the standard for what viewers and networks expect to see and 2) the image of chasers presented to the public (which new idiots, like the one we are discussing, then emulate - it has a very self-pertetuating aspect to it). I agree that it is a matter of time until some chaser or wannabe chaser dies. Three people did yesterday in Kirksville, so that tornado was not to be messed with.

On a totally different aspect, the Litchfield, IL target everyone was talking about for days verified - only problem is it did so at nearly midnight. Major damage, including structural damage to a number of buildings, in nearby Gillespie, and a semi overturned on I-55 near Litchfield. Bad part - it does not appear there was even a SVR warning when the storm hit Gillespie (or if there was, it did not show on the COD warning page). Not sure yet whether it was a downburst or tornado.

[mikegeukes]

INITIAL SURVEYS BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES IN
CONJUNCTION WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS IN ADAIR COUNTY
MISSOURI HAVE DETERMINED THAT AN EF-2 TORNADO OCCURRED EAST OF
KIRKSVILLE.
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KEAX/0905141837.nous43.html

NWS Norman will be out conducting surveys today.
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KOUN/0905141426.nous44.html

[mikegeukes]

Kirksville Tornado from Media Outlets:

Kirksville Newspaper:
http://www.kirksvilledailyexpress.com/homepage/x529240185

KMIZ: Columbia MO
http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=14186&author=News%20Staff&category=Tornado&franchise=&county=&city=&partner=

KOMU: Columbia MO
http://www.komu.com/satellite/SatelliteRender/KOMU.com/ba8a4513-c0a8-2f11-0063-9bd94c70b769/3c8924d8-80ce-0971-003d-b0ff016057d1

WGEM: Quicy IL
http://www.wgem.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3759601&h1=RAW%20VIDEO%20-%20Kirksville%20storm%20damage&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=75900&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=53862944

Mike

[Brandon Goforth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5wmIP043Cc

Records his speed, then his face. Oh hai mister sheriff.

The video was removed! Maybe he's rethinking that one... :rolleyes:

[Andrew Butler]

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[Rick Schmidt]

"I threw a few pictures on my flickr but I am curious whether anyone else was actually in the area for this?"--Jim S.

Jim:

I videotaped a brief tornado 3 miles west of Harris from that storm at 6:00 PM, according to my video timestamp. It showed a classic, but small wall cloud. ---Rick Schmidt

[Jim Saueressig]

"I threw a few pictures on my flickr but I am curious whether anyone else was actually in the area for this?"--Jim S.

Jim:

I videotaped a brief tornado 3 miles west of Harris from that storm at 6:00 PM, according to my video timestamp. It showed a classic, but small wall cloud. ---Rick Schmidt

Do you have that posted anywhere? I am trying like hell to figure out where the chopper tornado was but I am not finding anything familiar on google earth. I am going out in a bit to try to find a path.

[Scott Lincoln]

I noted a discussion last night regarding the SPC's forecasted outlook for May 13th, 2009. I believe that the discussion was going on in this thread, but I cannot seem to find it anymore, perhaps it was deleted.

Regardless, it seems as if there can be alot of debating whether or not a risk that the SPC puts out "verifies" or not, with many claims like "a moderate risk used to mean ___" made. It seems clear that last night, and many of these instances, people can let their emotions get in the way on either side of that argument. Today, I decided to objectively verify whether or not the moderate risk "verified," for just for the sake of fulfilling everyone's curiosity.

The SPC's definition of the convective outlooks, per their own FAQ page, is based on the individual probabilities of hail/wind/tornado within 25 miles of a point. This diagram comes to mind:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/prob_to_cat_day1_seetext.jpg


Did May 13th, 2009 MOD verify?
Based on this, a moderate risk means that there is a 15% chance of tornadoes, a 60% chance of severe hail, and/or a 45% chance of severe winds, all within 25 miles of a point. Using GIS, the 1630z MOD risk outline was drawn and it's area calculated. The MOD risk was ~156,763 sq miles in area. The area created by a 25 mile buffer around a point is 1,963 sq miles. This would create ~80 "probability circles" within the bounds of yesterday's risk area. Averaged over the risk area, the tornado probability was about 7%, the hail probability was about 45%, the sig. hail pobability was about 9%, and the wind probability was about 35%. Multiplying these percentages by the number of "probability circles" yields the number of evenly spaced reports averaged over the risk area that is required to verify the risk. Based on the SPC's definitions and the risks shown above, yesterday's MOD risk was low-end, and the area southwest of central Missouri only became a moderate risk due to the hatched (sig severe) area for hail. For the moderate risk to "verify" according to the SPC definitions there would have needed to be 5.6 tornadoes, 35.9 severe hail instances, 7.2 significant severe hail instances, and 27.9 severe wind instances.
*The obvious caveat to this is that severe weather does not occur as points, it occurs as lines or polygons.

Based on this, the risk likely verified for tornadoes (23 reports), definitely verified for hail (127 reports), maybe verified for sig. hail (7 reports), definitely verified for wind (144 reports).

[Rick Schmidt]

Jim:

I don't have it posted. I believe it skipped a few times. It might not show much of a path. Good luck!---Rick

[Brendon Lindsey]

Caught 2 tornadoes today, one near Green City, MO; and the other between Green City and Novinger. Tornado 2 grew from a truncated cone into a 1/4 mile wide beast and passed 1/8 mile in front of me. Unfortunately I was blocked by debris and couldn't continue the chase beyond there.

http://www.tornadofx.com/stormtrack/damage.jpg


Well, I Im assuming your not heart broken because their was house debris in your way.... from that house pictured... If that was the case did the thought come across your mind to see if there was people that needed help? Not trying to be mean, but I was just wondering if that was the case.

[mikegeukes]

NWS Kansas City
.PRELIMINARY TORNADO DAMAGE SURVEY RESULTS FROM MAY 13 EVENT
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KEAX/0905141920.nous43.html

Mike

[mikegeukes]

NWS Norman Damage Surveys are in: Kay, Dewey, Noble, Caddo and Cleveland Counties
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KOUN/0905142035.nous44.html

Mike

[Scott Weberpal]

Well, I Im assuming your not heart broken because their was house debris in your way.... from that house pictured... If that was the case did the thought come across your mind to see if there was people that needed help? Not trying to be mean, but I was just wondering if that was the case.

The residents were outside the house and stated that everyone was ok. There were powerlines across the driveway and ditch preventing anyone from getting onto the property from the road.

I stopped to help the guy that was blown off the road in his truck and had all his windows broken out, and stopped to offer assistance at 2 other houses which had moderate damage.

But hey, thanks for asking.

[Jim Saueressig]

Well, I Im assuming your not heart broken because their was house debris in your way.... from that house pictured... If that was the case did the thought come across your mind to see if there was people that needed help? Not trying to be mean, but I was just wondering if that was the case.

That was a real dickish thing to spout off don't you think Brendon?

[Brendon Lindsey]

Hah ok just making sure there was some etiquette. Seeing as I am the chaser police...jk =) Well thanks for doing your part. Great chase!

[Steve Miller OK]

Yeah MikeG - here is the text for the Cleveland County cell:
TORNADO - CLEVELAND COUNTY - WEST SIDE OF LAKE STANLEY DRAPER 1041PM-1047PM THIS BRIEF TORNADO DEVELOPED ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE LAKE AND MOVED SOUTH SOUTHEAST ALONG THE WESTERN SHORE OF THE LAKE. A BOAT DOCK WAS DAMAGED AND TREES AND OTHER SMALL STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED. BASED ON PRELIMINARY INFORMATION...THIS TORNADO IS RATED EF0.

It was a bit hairy here at my place in east Moore, just about 3/4 to 1 mile south of Draper! Check out my blog for account and radar images of the circulation in relation to my home.

[Mark M Smith]

Yeah MikeG - here is the text for the Cleveland County cell:


It was a bit hairy here at my place in east Moore, just about 3/4 to 1 mile south of Draper! Check out my blog for account and radar images of the circulation in relation to my home.

I will agree with you Steve. It was a bit hairy. I'm sure gald I put the storm shelter in 2 months ago.

As for my view point which is about a mile north of Steve, the wall cloud stayed north of me but not by far. We saw a well defind funnel about 3/4 the way to the ground and power flashes. I'm kicking myself for not grabbing my video camera. I could have gotten great video of it.

[Daniel Christianson]

I missed out on much the video, as i was not chasing but rather reading your comments. What goes around comes around.. sometimes not soon enough but that kid will end up losing his life or taking others with him. Theres nothing we can do to stop the new chasers out there the ones who are in experienced, more of just going out to see what they can see or how close they can get. You see all the media on tornadoes and shows and people think its awesome and that they can just go out and do the same thing. Reguardless i hope someone captured his video, i would send it directly to law enforcement im sure they would have a good response to him. Jail Time, for dumbasses who deserve it!

[Travis Stone]

Do you have that posted anywhere? I am trying like hell to figure out where the chopper tornado was but I am not finding anything familiar on google earth. I am going out in a bit to try to find a path.

We were in Pleasanton, and decided to go south on 69 maybe a mile later the Helicopter flew overhead directly east bound. this is the same time that the warning started going off for Bourbon County. I left my notes in my buddies chase truck and will work on times if this helps. best guess at this time is the Redfield, Mound City storm.

[Anthony Petito]

FYI... The Camaro guy can't delete all the videos: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a4_1242319398&c=1

I didn't get to see the full video this morning before they were all pulled.

[mikegeukes]

Updated Storm Surveys from NWS Kansas City
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KEAX/0905150234.nous43.html

Mike

[mikegeukes]

NWS Saint Louis Storm Damage Survey
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KLSX/0905150222.nous43.html

Mike

[mikegeukes]

NWS Lincoln Storm Damage Survey:
http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KILX/0905150021.nous43.html

Mike

[John Farley]

Summary of all the NWS St. Louis damage surveys here:

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lsx/?n=05_13_2009

2 tornadoes in Knox Co., MO, tornado in Bismarck, MO, tornado and downburst in Gillespie, IL, and scattered straight-line wind damage in Lewis Co., IL

[Jim Saueressig]

Topeka has the two in Coffey County accounted for.

NWS Topeka Summary (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=top&storyid=27667)

I found it interesting that Blair got a photo a few minutes before me I think was of this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2420/3529514203_94f8abf1b1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansashorizons/3529514203/sizes/o)

His looks much better with the 10mm attached.

[jshields]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWr1irxrLCk&feature=related

if you click on the right on more info to read the account of this video, it sounds like someone trying to say they were the one that recorded this?

[Bob Hartig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWr1irxrLCk&feature=related

if you click on the right on more info to read the account of this video, it sounds like someone trying to say they were the one that recorded this?

The YouTube poster's info section is so poorly written that it's hard to tell what he or she intended to communicate. That person may have intended to take credit for Bart's video, but they could also have just written a really screwy, confusing description that was a lot clearer in the writer's mind than it appears in print. In any case, Bart needs to be properly credited.

EDIT: Actually, probably doesn't matter since Bart's name is plainly visible at the bottom of the screen.

[Randall Cooper]

For those that haven't seen pictures of the Kirksville tragedy, I went there and took pictures yesterday, and put a blog up at http://www.ichasewhatyouhidefrom.com/index.php?option=com_idoblog&view=idoblog&Itemid=57

[Zac Flamig]

Documented two well defined lowerings just north of Norman and east of Moore on the night of the 13th.

The first lowering:
http://www.zorm.org/files/_MG_8020_small.jpg
http://www.zorm.org/files/_MG_8024_crop.jpg

And then west of the first lowering, at 10:45 we had this second lowering:
http://www.zorm.org/files/_MG_8038_crop.jpg

The second lowering seems to coincide with the time that OUN placed a tornado on the ground near Lake Stanley Draper in their report.

[Jon Davies]

I did a short case study on the Kirksville tornado setting at:
http://davieswx.blogspot.com/

It's really interesting how different the environment was across 50 miles going from Chillicothe to Kirksville across the retreating outflow boundary and area just east of the surface low.

Jon Davies

[Eric Flescher]

I was just wondering about this whole day , the set up and how this cell grew to be what it was / transpired and our encounter with it (see earlier in this thread). And now you have posted it Jon .

Thanks very much.

Meanwhile, if anyone has a video/photo or different vantage point of the Kirksville tornado , please PM me. I am creating a map and links to where people were that day and their location (and time).
from our vantage point slide show and account (http://stormsatori-kcstormguy.blogspot.com/2009/05/our-remarkable-close-encounter-with.html)

Thanks

::
I did a short case study on the Kirksville tornado setting at:
http://davieswx.blogspot.com/

It's really interesting how different the environment was across 50 miles going from Chillicothe to Kirksville across the retreating outflow boundary and area just east of the surface low.

Jon Davies

[L Kimbrel]

I live about 35 miles north west of Litchfield, Il, and was still awake at midnight, watching the lightning and listening to the wind roar as the storms moved over my place. I jumped up several times to check the wind gauge, which was clocking 40-45mph with gusts over 50, and at exactly midnight, that wind shrieked and hit the house with an audible thud that shook the entire building. I've never heard anything NEAR to the sound it made, brought me right out of bed (my bedroom being on the southwest corner of the house) flying to the middle. My husband and his buddy were also up and jumping, we could hear things outside breaking and then the power went out. The entire event lasted maybe 5 or 10 seconds, and the wind dropped back to a tolerable roar again. Looking out the window by lightning flashes we could see debris all across the yard and on into the field to the east.

The next morning, we found a 6" steel downspout that was bolted to the house in 4 places lying in the front yard, along with soffitt and fascia from the back and side of the house, some of it carried over a mile and half away. 6" and 8" branches were torn off and carried into my cousin's field, a door on the lee side of the barn had been sucked open and stuff stored inside was sucked out into the yard, a casement window on the lee side of the house was sucked open--ripped from the latching hardware. The dumpster had been pushed 7 feet through thick gravel, shingles ripped from the garage in sheets, and my steel garden wagon had been tossed and crushed. I found the yellow handle to my grandkid's Little Tykes wagon but still haven't found the wagon. A 3'x20' sheet of corrugated steel roofing landed half a mile away in the field. That actually came in quite handy, since I could toss all the other crap that was blown into the field onto it and drag a lot of it back home in one trip.

A half mile north, my cousin's machine shed roof was ripped off and thrown into his evergreen windbreak, which fortunately kept it from slicing through his house just on the other side of the trees. And the top third of his 90' Harvestor silo looks like a giant fist smashed it in, never saw anything less than a tornado crumple one of those babies. Another half-mile and a little northwest, the neighbor's very sturdy barn had the top half ripped off and dragged across the road in two separate debris trails for half a mile through my dad's field. My sister and I were able to track damage from this wind nearly 20 miles from my place east-northeast to Pana, Il, where it was declared an EF1, I believe, by the Lincoln NWS. The damage path was very narrow, 50-75 yards at most, and pretty spotty since it tracked mostly across bare, still unplanted farmland. And it blew through fast -- me, my cousin and our neighbor, none of us made it much more than out of bed before it was already done and over.

I've been offline until just this evening, and busy cleaning up, but I hope tomorrow to have a chance to get with the STL office and see if all these damages were reported. The neighbor's barn is across the county line road in the Lincoln CWA, and I'm pretty sure they diidn't report anything. Until then nothing's official, but nonetheless I'm unofficially absolutely positive we were nailed by at least a smallish tornado-- knocked on the damn door and I STILL didn't get to actually see it.

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i sent a message to bart with the original link and he replied that the link didn't work but that it could just be someone that is part of the severestudios team. but if i found it again to let him know. i searched again and found the proper link with also the user name of the person who posted it. like you said bob, not sure if they were actually taking credit for it bc you can see barts name in the video, but at the beginning they have some kind of advertisement and it looks like this user takes other peoples videos that are real popular to do just that?! anyways after the correct link bart found it and said he reported it!

The YouTube poster's info section is so poorly written that it's hard to tell what he or she intended to communicate. That person may have intended to take credit for Bart's video, but they could also have just written a really screwy, confusing description that was a lot clearer in the writer's mind than it appears in print. In any case, Bart needs to be properly credited.

EDIT: Actually, probably doesn't matter since Bart's name is plainly visible at the bottom of the screen.