4/20/04 NOW: IL/IN

[Dan Cook]

4 reports of tornadoes today. Latest warning for LOT reports spotter reports Large tornado:

http://kamala.cod.edu/svr/0404202233.KLOT.wfus53.html

Discuss:

LSR: http://kamala.cod.edu/il/latest.nwus53.KILX.html

[Jeff Snyder]

Quite a few warnings up there now... Rather surpsing, seeing all model guidance I can see is saying/forecasting/analyzing CAPE <500 (if not 0) across most of IL and IN. SPC mesoanalysis, however, is indicating SBCAPEs >1000+ across that area... Shear is very strong, but I can't seem to find much of anything that shows instability over that area... Several reports, however, of spotter-sighted tornadoes.... Always a good remind to stay on your feet, as even the days that don't look favorable can turn around quickly... Those supercells all appear quite small in terms of size...

Also, a new tornado warning for a supercell right near Des Moines, IA...

VAD profiles from nearby radars show some very impressive shear! LCLs are very low too.

EDIT: 11 counties under tornado warnings right now! :shock:

EDIT2: LOL I find it odd how the forecast tornado area (eastern KS/OK, eastern MO/AR) have had 0 tornado reports so far, yet there seems be a regional tornado outbreak going on in IL and IN. Additionally, tornado warnings now for that Des Moines supercell and one now for Antelope county in northeast Nebraska! What's going on?! LOL

[mikegeukes]

Severe Weather Event is over, removed information.

Mike

[Andrew Geil]

Had a touch down south of Champaign, IL.

Destroyed a barn/shed.

[Robert Dewey]

Thats incredible...Hopefully its heading for MI tomorrow, but thats another thread... :o

Robert

[Robert Dewey]

Here are some level II nexrad from a little while ago (~2219z):

Cross Section: http://www.waveformpc.com/lot.gif
0.5 Degree Elevation: http://www.waveformpc.com/lot_rad.gif

Robert

[Dan Cook]

0705 PM TORNADO LA SALLE 41.34N 89.09W
04/20/2004 LA SALLE IL AMATEUR RADIO

DAMAGE REPORT 1 BUILDING COLLAPSED. MAJOR DAMAGE WITH
PEOPLE TRAPPED


http://kamala.cod.edu/il/latest.nwus53.KLOT.html

[Matthew Havin]

I find it very interesting that the SPC did not put out a tornado watch until 2240Z, and did not have a Meso Discussion until 2300Z. Note that this is after 6 tornadoes spotted until the watch, and 11 until the Meso Discussion.

I also found it funny that many went chasing today aimed at a marginal environment (SE KS/NE OK), only to have a mesoscale tornado event blow up 2 states away!

Never underestimate the warm front just because the SPC does.

[David Draun]

I come in from work hearing about a tornado watch. I'm thinkin there must be some mistake. HWO said no sevwx for Chicago! :shock: :shock: Now, a multitude of supercells approaching the city! WTF?! :shock: :shock:

Nothin by NIU though. :(

It's about time something got started, been really boring here, weatherwise.

[Dan Cook]

AT 730 PM CDT...A TRAINED SPOTTER REPORTED A TORNADO AND RADAR
INDICATED ROTATION AROUND CHANNAHON...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH

Grundy and Will Counties in NE IL. I called home and my mom says that sirens are sounding.

[Mike Thompson]

Reported now on ground in city of Channahon, also tornado just hit the small town of Delmar, Iowa in Jackson county major damage now being reported. Wow, major outbreak NOT expected!!

[Jon Miller]

Confirmed tornado reports now coming in around the Wabash / Huntington area of north central Indiana heading NE now towards Allen county (Ft. Wayne area) .

Gads, I wish we could have got an inkling of this brewing up earlier in the afternoon (more action here in the midwest than in Ok/KS )- well within a 1 to 4 hr chase drive for me. Maybe tomorrow.

Jon Miller
WTØRNA

They just issued a tornado warning for FT. Wayne Indiana

[Dan Cook]

TWC FINALLY did a break in of Storm Stories. Their coverage of the Tulsa/Chicago storms are pathetic. :evil:

[Matthew Hatton]

We have gone from 16 to 34 tornado reports in 30 minutes! I was on an armchair chase down near Tulsa today. :x

[Matthew Havin]

This will end up being a great case study for today....... 31 tornadoes already for just IL/IN from the warm front.

[Mike Thompson]

Tornado on ground in Joliet, Illinois and on the ground ON Interstate 57 just north of Kankakee, Ill. Not good, getting in high population areas and on major highways.

[David Draun]

According to Dr. Forbes, tornadic supercell is approaching my hometown of Schaumburg, IL :shock: Spare my house please! I wonder if anyone got pictures of this event!

[Jon Miller]

Confirmed touchdowns and damage in Boone, Howard,Grant and Wabash counties in Indiana.

Confirmed touchdown NOW in Roanoke Indiana (Huntington county) heading NE 20 mph into Ft. Wayne, Indiana.

Jon Miller

Confirmed touchdown and damage (& TV news video of tornado) in Jamestown Indiana earlier.

[Ken Hughey]

Wow... Check out the 4pm HWO for Chicago....
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/product.php?site=l...02103&format=ci (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/product.php?site=lot&title=Hazardous+Weather+Outlook&product=HWOLOT.0404202103&format=ci)

"NO SEVERE WEATHER IS EXPECTED." ouch....

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by Ken Hughey
Wow... Check out the 4pm HWO for Chicago....
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/product.php?site=l...02103&format=ci (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/product.php?site=lot&title=Hazardous+Weather+Outlook&product=HWOLOT.0404202103&format=ci)

\"NO SEVERE WEATHER IS EXPECTED.\" ouch....

NWS in Chicago always seems to downplay most severe weather threats. However; this event by most meteorological standards, really wasn't supposed to happen. The air was very stable, but I guess strong forcing, very low LCLs, and intense shear all combined at the right place and time.

Hopefully we can get some of this action in MI tomorrow, I'll be out chasing...I just put the laptop to sleep for a full battery tomorrow, and called up sprint to activate my cellular card...

Robert

[David Draun]

Chicago outbreak has ended looks like. The storm approaching my home in Schaumburg weakened and as most supercells do, it moved to the right. I guess this type of thing (low-top supercells) is what y'all were expecting on 3/1 up here!

[Robert Hoff]

I just got back from a spur-of-the-moment run through DuPage and Will counties, right out my door. Most frustrating – low light levels, lousy contrast, and crowded and cluttered terrain. Every time I got a line on a cell it weakened as though it sensed my approach. Finally got close to a good storm around Lockport when it finally got too dark too see. Not my day, but pretty good for a completely unexpected gift. I actually read the infamous 4PM LOT HWO before I left work, and came home to my SAME reciever going off. :oops:

[Dan Cook]

WGN TV out of Chicago reports fatalities in Lasalle County. :(

[Joe Smith]

Did not even have a drop of rain here at Kentland Indiana, but tornado on Ground a few miles northwest of Gilman Illinois about 30 miles west of me.....I do hope mets will study this outbreak to see why 38 of 43 reported tornadoes so far his Indiana and Illinois and why the warm front became so active when it was unexpected to do so and interest was focused on Oklahoma. Good scientific lessons can be learned.

[Dan Robinson]

Google News search yielded some tornado-in-progress images from Indiana:

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1...98&nav=0Ra7MSLI (http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1801198&nav=0Ra7MSLI)

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=180...35&nav=9TaiMSSs (http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=1801335&nav=9TaiMSSs)

[rdale]

I did a study on a similar event in MI in 2001 - http://www.wlns.com/Global/category.asp?C=20470

- Rob

[David Draun]

I think the news (WGN) is showing anywhere from f0-f1 damage, but i'm not an expert.

[Dan Robinson]

Another new photo from Illinois:

http://week.com/morenews/morenews-read.asp?id=4161

From the looks of this, it looks like we might see plenty of photo/video documentation of this event despite the lack of advance notice.

[David Draun]

Originally posted by Dan Robinson
Another new photo from Illinois:

http://week.com/morenews/morenews-read.asp?id=4161

From the looks of this, it looks like we might see plenty of photo/video documentation of this event despite the lack of advance notice.


That is a big one! :shock: It looks like its rain-wrapped. Can min-supercells have HP characteristics?

[rdale]

A mini-supercell is exactly the same as a 'regular' supercell except smaller in all sizes... Nothing against a HP mini.

[David Draun]

That was probably an HP that prompted the flood warning for CHI. Now there are 4 :!: confirmed tornado-related deaths in LaSalle County! :shock: Boy! SPC really blew this forecast. I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman...

[rdale]

"SPC really blew this forecast."

Blew it? WRONG. It saddens me to see people on a met forum saying something like this. There was _NOTHING_ in the data earlier to suggest this. You can't blow a forecast when it's unforecastable. Statements like this make me wonder about some people...

"I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman..."

Wow. I know what I'm thinking about your slam...

Was the warning issued before damage? I would bet so. Do you think the people killed said "SPC did not issue a moderate risk earlier, so we'll ignore it"? That's just ridiculous to blame this on SPC. I'm still shocked that someone would take an event like this and twist it as you've done.

[Jeff Snyder]

Originally posted by David Draun
That was probably an HP that prompted the flood warning for CHI. Now there are 4 :!: confirmed tornado-related deaths in LaSalle County! :shock: Boy! SPC really blew this forecast. I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman...

Why is everyone so quick to blame SPC? Why not blame NWS offices? Why not blame media outlets (TWC, etc)? I have yet to find any evidence that anyone legitimate was forecasting this event... These were minisupercells, in a high-shear, low instability environment. Hmm... seems similar March 4th, 2004 in OK and northern TX. Remember that one, high risk, PDS, etc... Similar thing -- high shear, low instability. Yes, there's plenty still to discover and research about severe thunderstorms, but remember, SPC forecasters are human, just like everyone else. They are not going to be on top of EVERY event. There will be some days that look awesome but fail to produce; there will be some days that look like garbage but somehow produce bigtime. Yes, I know this was a significant outbreak, but I continue to say that I have yet to see a single legit source that had forecasted this event.

EDIT: I made this post the same time as Rob's post above... I agree whole-heartedly with everything he said. I've already heard this numerous times tonight off StormTrack as well as other lists. Grrrr.

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by Jeff Snyder+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeff Snyder)</div><!--QuoteBegin-David Draun
That was probably an HP that prompted the flood warning for CHI. Now there are 4 :!: confirmed tornado-related deaths in LaSalle County! :shock: Boy! SPC really blew this forecast. I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman...

Why is everyone so quick to blame SPC? Why not blame NWS offices? Why not blame media outlets (TWC, etc)? I have yet to find any evidence that anyone legitimate was forecasting this event... These were minisupercells, in a high-shear, low instability environment. Hmm... seems similar March 4th, 2004 in OK and northern TX. Remember that one, high risk, PDS, etc... Similar thing -- high shear, low instability. Yes, there's plenty still to discover and research about severe thunderstorms, but remember, SPC forecasters are human, just like everyone else. They are going to be on top of EVERY event. Yes, I know this was a significant outbreak, but I continue to say that I have yet to see a single legit source that had forecasted this event.[/b]

Very much agree with Jeff...

Why blame anyone...SPC TRIES their best to forecast. I highly doubt that they were just sitting around doing nothing...The fact is, if they knew about what was going to happen, the WOULD have done something! Forecasting IS predicting the future, you can't really tell what happens until it happens...

Robert

[David Draun]

Originally posted by rdewey+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rdewey)</div>Originally posted by Jeff Snyder@
<!--QuoteBegin-David Draun
That was probably an HP that prompted the flood warning for CHI. Now there are 4 :!: confirmed tornado-related deaths in LaSalle County! :shock: Boy! SPC really blew this forecast. I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman...

Why is everyone so quick to blame SPC? Why not blame NWS offices? Why not blame media outlets (TWC, etc)? I have yet to find any evidence that anyone legitimate was forecasting this event... These were minisupercells, in a high-shear, low instability environment. Hmm... seems similar March 4th, 2004 in OK and northern TX. Remember that one, high risk, PDS, etc... Similar thing -- high shear, low instability. Yes, there's plenty still to discover and research about severe thunderstorms, but remember, SPC forecasters are human, just like everyone else. They are going to be on top of EVERY event. Yes, I know this was a significant outbreak, but I continue to say that I have yet to see a single legit source that had forecasted this event.

Very much agree with Jeff...

Why blame anyone...SPC TRIES their best to forecast. I highly doubt that they were just sitting around doing nothing...The fact is, if they knew about what was going to happen, the WOULD have done something! Forecasting IS predicting the future, you can't really tell what happens until it happens...

Robert[/b]


I retract my "blew it " statement :oops: I still have a lot to learn.

[Melissa Moon]

Originally posted by rdale
\"SPC really blew this forecast.\"

Blew it? WRONG. It saddens me to see people on a met forum saying something like this. There was _NOTHING_ in the data earlier to suggest this. You can't blow a forecast when it's unforecastable. Statements like this make me wonder about some people...

\"I wonder what they are thinking now in Norman...\"

Wow. I know what I'm thinking about your slam...

Was the warning issued before damage? I would bet so. Do you think the people killed said \"SPC did not issue a moderate risk earlier, so we'll ignore it\"? That's just ridiculous to blame this on SPC. I'm still shocked that someone would take an event like this and twist it as you've done.

Well, you're right in the sense that this was pretty much impossible to forecast and it all took us by surprise. However, the SPC DID blow it. And I think the rest of us did too 8) so we're all even.

[Bill Hark]

I was stuck at work and away from the computer. Did anybody save some late morning/ early afternoon data from today? I'd llike to go back and look at some of the surface obs/model forecasts and parameters.

Bill Hark

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by Bill Hark
I was stuck at work and away from the computer. Did anybody save some late morning/ early afternoon data from today? I'd llike to go back and look at some of the surface obs/model forecasts and parameters.

Bill Hark

Didn't think to save any data, since I was not expeting this event...Here is a level II nexrad image from when the supercells first started getting their act together in Central IL...

(~2219z):
Cross Section: http://www.waveformpc.com/lot.gif
0.5 Degree Elevation: http://www.waveformpc.com/lot_rad.gif

Robert

[mikegeukes]

Severe Weather Event is over, removed information.

Mike

[Kevin Askew]

This thing happens in Meterology. I think they might have underestimated a potent warm front of storms but they are human indeed. Its tough being a Meterologist surely. Either way the average joe is upset time to time at the weather service. On the flip side these type of high shear no instability events are rare. If the SPC issued watches or Mod. risks everytime these setups occur 9.5 out of 10 times they dont materilize like todays case. So issuing all those mod risks & what not, the average citizen will just ignore it if nothing happens. Its a tough situation. If I was off work & looked for a place to chase...It wouldnt have been in IL or IN. The "typial set up" was OK. & what not. I dont think SPC blew it, I think maybe underestimated it is operative term because todays scenerio almost never produces sig. severe wx. Let alone large destructive naders. My .02
Kevin

[Stuart Robinson]

This looks like a LT (low topped) supercell event. We need to look at the CAPE values at 700mb. At 500mb there may well be little cape to be found and positve L.I.

[rdale]

"This looks like a LT (low topped) supercell event."

Considering the tornadoes came from storms with Echo Tops of 25K - 35K, I think that's a safe bet.

[Larry J. Kosch]

Here's a copy of the story about the ILL tornadoes in the USA TODAY paper:

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 8:39 a.m. ET April 21, 2004
UTICA, Ill. - A tornado-laden storm plowed through northcentral Illinois, flattening or damaging dozens of buildings and killing at least four people, including three whose bodies were found in a collapsed tavern in this town some 90 miles southwest of Chicago.

An elementary school, part of a grain elevator, dozens of houses and a number of businesses were heavily damaged in Utica, a town of 2,000 where residents said they fled to basements when warning sirens sounded the alarm minutes before the storm hit.

“A major portion of the downtown was either damaged or destroyed,” said LaSalle County Sheriff Tom Templeton, who added that up to five people are still unaccounted for, including one of the tavern owners.

Tuesday night’s storm, the first deadly twister of the season, collapsed the downtown Utica building that housed the Milestone Tap, where three bodies were found early Wednesday.

In all there were more than 40 tornado sightings in Illinois, Indiana and Oklahoma, according to cable TV’s Weather channel.

WMAQ-TV's coverage of tornadoes

Four other people in the Utica area, including three children, were hospitalized with injuries, officials said. Violent storms also ripped through central Indiana, injuring at least eight people.

Authorities said from three to six people suffered minor injuries in Jamestown, northwest of Indianapolis, where about a dozen homes were damaged. One person was injured when a tractor-trailer was blown off Interstate 74 in Boone County. The storm reportedly blew as many as four semitrailers off the highway.

Rescuers in Utica, searching through the rubble of the Milestone, were hampered because the building was made of sandstone and crumbled easily.

“The structure is not stable,” Bernard said.

Templeton said officials could not give an accurate account of injuries or how many homes or buildings were damaged until sometime after sunrise.

“We’re holding out some hope that we’ll still find some people alive,” he said.

Generators roared overnight, supplying power to rescue workers toiling in the town left in the dark. Yellow police tape also cordoned off several downtown blocks where the heaviest damage occurred.

Dozens of buildings in a three- to four-block area were damaged, several collapsed in piles of brick and splintered wood, said state Trooper Tim Reppin.

“This would equate to what I saw in Plainfield 10 or 15 years ago,” Reppin said, referring to the Aug. 28, 1990, tornado that killed 29 people and damaged more than 1,000 homes along a 16-mile path near Joliet.

Mervin Taylor had just finished rounding up his 22 head of cattle when he watched the huge tornado barreling toward his home take a left and head for downtown Utica.

Taylor, whose property wasn’t damaged, said the tornado turned away from his property about a block away. “I didn’t have time to be scared,” the 72-year-old said.

State Rep. Careen Gordon, whose district includes LaSalle County, said she had been in contact with Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s office and planned to ask for emergency funds Wednesday. Blagojevich spokeswoman Cheryle Jackson said the governor planned to go the region to assess the damage.

The storm collapsed a drug store roof and destroyed at least one home in the Chicago suburb of Joliet, officials there said. The storm also damaged about 60 homes and a bank in Granville.

Sam Zulbeari, who owns Ali’s Pantry Family Restaurant in downtown Granville, said trees were toppled and cars and stores have broken windows but his business wasn’t damaged.

“It happened so quick, we just ran to basement,” Zulbeari said. “We got scared a little bit, but we’re lucky we didn’t get hurt. ... It’s just miserable.”

At least 15,000 homes were without power across three counties Tuesday night.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

[Dan Cook]

Damage survey indicated the Joliet tornado was an F1.

http://kamala.cod.edu/il/latest.abus34.KCHI.html

[mikegeukes]

Severe Weather Event is over, removed information.

Mike

[Rich Pena]

here is a good map for SWEAT sorry: http://www.caps.ou.edu/wx/p/r/spmeso/adas/ it's much better now even Dallas area is 531 boy OK seems to be right on the money...

[mikegeukes]

Severe Weather Event is over, removed information.

Mike

[Scott A. Kampas]

Here is a compilation of chaser reports and pix/vid from last Tuesday's outbreak (as well as NWS summaries and some media/misc links). If anyone has additional info, please let me know. I am also assembling meteorological data for archiving and a case study discussion. I have already heard that there will be formal case studies for publication in meteorology journals and obviously numerous informal ones.

BNVN (Jerry Funfsinn)
http://www.weathervine.com/severe/4_20_04.html
http://www.creativejetstream.com/

Ben Cotton
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~bcotton/wx/chase/20apr04/

Mike Kruze
http://kruze.dyndns.org/pics/thumbnails.php?album=86

Stan Olson
http://www.stansweather.net/2004/04-20-04-chase.php

Matt Hartman
http://12.162.70.218/gallery/2004.0420
http://12.162.70.218/video/2004.0420/042004vid.wmv

Skip Talbott
http://members.aol.com/skipt1/tornado.jpg

Andrew Pritchard
http://www.geocities.com/pwxchase2004/2004april20.html

David Bellmore
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=385398

Joe Walters, Keenan Campbell, Gilbert Sebenste

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Mark Sefried
http://www.vortexhunter.com/April%2020,%202004.htm

Blake Naftel, Dan Dimitroff


NWS
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/040420_rpts.html
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/042104b.html
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/severe/20Apr04...04/summary.html (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/severe/20Apr04/summary.html)
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dvn/WeatherEvents/...m_tor/index.htm (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dvn/WeatherEvents/4_20_04_putnam_tor/index.htm)
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dvn/WeatherEvents/...n_tor/index.htm (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dvn/WeatherEvents/4_20_04_clinton_tor/index.htm)
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ilx/events/apr2020...04/apr20tor.php (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ilx/events/apr202004/apr20tor.php)
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ind/april%2020_2004.htm
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/iwx/events/04_20_0...tornadoes.shtml (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/iwx/events/04_20_04/04_20_04_tornadoes.shtml)

Data
Lon Curtis
http://www.vvm.com/~curtis/JOT_0420.html

Matt Hartman
http://12.162.70.218/archives/2004.0420/

Ben Cotton
http://www.eas.purdue.edu/ldm/save_data/04...40420-tornadoes (http://www.eas.purdue.edu/ldm/save_data/040420-tornadoes)

SPC
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/even...0420/index.html (http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/events/040420/index.html)


Media and Miscellaneous
http://www.newstrib.com/
http://www.starvedrockrelief.org/

http://stormyweather.81x.com/WTviewProject...rojectID=115739 (http://stormyweather.81x.com/WTviewProject.aspx?ProjectID=115739)

James Krancic
http://www.wildlifescenicphotos.com/utica_...torm_photos.htm (http://www.wildlifescenicphotos.com/utica_storm_photos.htm)

http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&e...2f8478647%2ehtm (http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&edition=us&q=cluster:www%2emercurynews%2ecom%2fmld%2fmercuryn ews%2fnews%2fbreaking%5fnews%2f8478647%2ehtm)
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_st..._111191501.html (http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_111191501.html)
http://www.nbc5.com/weather/3024390/detail...994&dppid=65194 (http://www.nbc5.com/weather/3024390/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65194)
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/042004_ns_tornado.html
http://www.wqad.com/
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WEATHER/04/21/dead...nado/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WEATHER/04/21/deadly.tornado/index.html)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...d=519&ncid=1112 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040421/ap_on_re_us/spring_storm&cid=519&ncid=1112)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...ll=chi-news-hed (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040421tornadoes,0,7411303.story?coll=chi-news-hed)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...ll=chi-news-hed (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040421utica3-photo,0,2367371.photo?coll=chi-news-hed)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4791348/
http://www.pjstar.com/
http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/042104/n...040421041.shtml (http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/042104/new_20040421041.shtml)
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S...OSTP&SECTION=US (http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SPRING_STORM?SITE=MOSTP&SECTION=US)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=4898161 (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4898161)
http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_...is&c=24,1027229 (http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1027229&l=1&t=Iowa+%2F+Illinois&c=24,1027229)
http://week.com/morenews/morenews-read.asp?id=4161

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Scott A. Kampas

[Jerry funfsinn]

I've just posted new pictures of the Granville/Utica tornadoes on my website. Not much of a chase reporter but just have to say that ham radio saved lives yesterday. Storms look a lot different when aimed at your friends, family, and loved ones. I'm still in awe over this storm.
Jerry Funfsinn
creativejetstream.com

[Joe Smith]

Earlier in this thread I asked for a met to give a reasoned discussion of why tornadoes exploded along the warm front when conditions did not seem to warrant such an outbreak. Gil Sebenste of NIU Weather gave an excellent answer in his discussion for today. Scroll down to see how events can "turn on a dime" and why it is so difficult to forecast severe weather even a few hours, let alone days, ahead. Answered my questions.

http://www.stormchaser.niu.edu/forecast.txt

[David Draun]

Originally posted by Joe Smith
Earlier in this thread I asked for a met to give a reasoned discussion of why tornadoes exploded along the warm front when conditions did not seem to warrant such an outbreak. Gil Sebenste of NIU Weather gave an excellent answer in his discussion for today. Scroll down to see how events can \"turn on a dime\" and why it is so difficult to forecast severe weather even a few hours, let alone days, ahead. Answered my questions.

http://www.stormchaser.niu.edu/forecast.txt

Gil is da man! I've had many opportunities to talk with him. He even chased on 08/28/90! (Plainfield, IL F5)

[Walker Ashley]

Originally posted by Scott A. Kampas
Mike Kruze
http://kruze.dyndns.org/pics/thumbnails.php?album=86

Those cemetery shots are unbelievable!

Walker