Number of Posts???

[Justin Walker]

I noticed that the number of posts that a ST'er posts is not there anymore. Is it a glitch, or has it been removed permanently? I think it would be a good thing to remove that so some ST'ers don't get intimidated? Any thoughts?

[Jeff Snyder]

The moderators have reached a consensus to remove the post count. It doesn't really serve much of a purpose, and there was a concern that some members may worry about (or put too much into) their post count.

[Robert Dewey]

I liked it... It gave me a rough estimate of how often someone visits the forums. I think almost everyone here can agree that it wasn't used to be elitist.

[Andrew Khan]

I liked it to...but it's gone now. You can still view it by clicking on someones profile, however. What's the deal about being elite from your post counts, or something?

[Dustin Wilcox]

I also side with the moderators, it seemed that there has been an increase in a number of useless posts lately, I have a feeling this may cut back on that. As far as the concern of knowing how often one visits, I think those of us that visit the sight often recognize those who are regulars and even if you cant "who cares" one with 8,000 post might not have any better information then one with 20.

[nickgrillo]

Originally posted by rdewey
I liked it... It gave me a rough estimate of how often someone visits the forums. I think almost everyone here can agree that it wasn't used to be elitist.

Yeah, I didn't see a problem with it... Also, it doesn't make any sense on why it was chosen to not display on it on the actual posts, but if you look at the memberlist or profiles - it's still there.

Once again, if there is a problem with useless posts - just get rid of them :wink:

It doesn't really matter what a persons post count is, it's about how much they contribute to this forum (forecasting, reports, techniques, etc)...

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by nickgrillo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nickgrillo)</div><!--QuoteBegin-rdewey
I liked it... It gave me a rough estimate of how often someone visits the forums. I think almost everyone here can agree that it wasn't used to be elitist.

Yeah, I didn't see a problem with it... Also, it doesn't make any sense on why it was chosen to not display on it on the actual posts, but if you look at the memberlist or profiles - it's still there.

Once again, if there is a problem with useless posts - just get rid of them :wink:

It doesn't really matter what a persons post count is, it's about how much they contribute to this forum (forecasting, reports, techniques, etc)...[/b]

Exactly...

Anyway, I HIGHLY doubt that it will cut back on "useless" posts. I often check my post ratio to make sure it's within the ST guidelines, and I have a pretty good ratio (as does Nick and Jeff), and we have easily over 2,000 posts here, many of which aren't "useless". Given that, I don't believe it will cut back on useless posts.

[nickgrillo]

Originally posted by rdewey+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rdewey)</div>Originally posted by nickgrillo@
<!--QuoteBegin-rdewey
I liked it... It gave me a rough estimate of how often someone visits the forums. I think almost everyone here can agree that it wasn't used to be elitist.

Yeah, I didn't see a problem with it... Also, it doesn't make any sense on why it was chosen to not display on it on the actual posts, but if you look at the memberlist or profiles - it's still there.

Once again, if there is a problem with useless posts - just get rid of them :wink:

It doesn't really matter what a persons post count is, it's about how much they contribute to this forum (forecasting, reports, techniques, etc)...

Exactly...

Anyway, I HIGHLY doubt that it will cut back on "useless" posts. I often check my post ratio to make sure it's within the ST guidelines, and I have a pretty good ratio (as does Nick and Jeff), and we have easily over 2,000 posts here, many of which aren't "useless". Given that, I don't believe it will cut back on useless posts.[/b]

Completely agreed...

There is absolutely no reason on why it would cut back on stupid posts, as they are gonna be posted anyways. Go take a look at all the WX-Group "mailing list" type things, there is plenty of dumb stuff going on - and there is no such thing as a "post count"...

[Andrew Khan]

I personally really wish it was back..just because it's been around for a while.

[Glen Romine]

Less clutter. Great.

[Dan Cook]

awsome.

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by Andrew Khan
I personally really wish it was back..just because it's been around for a while.

It doesn't matter either way, it's just that the arguments for taking it away are fairly slim - as noted by the lack of discussion/one-liners. As the saying goes; if it's not broken, then don't fix it.

As Glen said though, it is less clutter, and you can still check post counts by clicking on the name.

[Shane Adams]

I liked it because I enjoy stats anyway, but it's no real loss because the posts you read still have a name attached. The names you start recognizing are the ones with the highest number of posts. With or without the post count, the most active people will still be easy to spot.

Also interesting to note that, while perusing the other replies in this thread, the two individuals who are compaigning for the post count display were at the top of the post list :wink:

[nickgrillo]

:wink:

As for "less clutter" - it won't solve much of that... There is still gonna be dumb "one-liner" posts or useless posters. It can't be solved until you simply put a stop to THAT.

Personally, I don't care - I'm just sayin'...

[KMcCallister]

Originally posted by Justin Walker
I noticed that the number of posts that a ST'er posts is not there anymore. Is it a glitch, or has it been removed permanently? I think it would be a good thing to remove that so some ST'ers don't get intimidated? Any thoughts?

At some point it must have come back, since I still see it. I'm convinced that if it were possible to get rid of the count, it would eliminate the competition to post more.

And, now that I've fallen to 78th place in this competition...I'm going to have a hard time catching up.

[David Schuttler]

I f I post in this topic as to a favored thought or a non-favored thought will this still be considered a useless post? Since it has already been ruled by mods are all the post above useless?
:lol: :lol:

No offense hopefully is taken but what some call useless others do not and vice versa ......

My opinion on the subject is, so what

[KMcCallister]

No.

(And I'm still in 78th place)

[Mikey Gribble]

Whatever floats the moderators boat is fine with me. I have noticed that some of the people who haven't been members very long are climbing the charts rather quickly on post counts and the vast majority of their posts are frivolous IMO. Maybe doing away with the post count will help keep worthless posts down. I guess it just depends on what motivates these people to post.

[Robert Dewey]

Originally posted by Michael Gribble
Maybe doing away with the post count will help keep worthless posts down.

On the contrary, it could just make it harder to identify those with the frivolous post counts (i.e. someone with 1200 posts, but you rarely see them in the Target Area or Weather Lab). I am just wondering who seriously has competitions on post counts here in ST? If there really are people who are posting frivolously just to rank higher, then they shouldn't be here in the first place, and they shouldn't be that hard to spot (i.e. look at the post ratios).

[KMcCallister]

Originally posted by rdewey+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rdewey)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Michael Gribble
Maybe doing away with the post count will help keep worthless posts down.

On the contrary, it could just make it harder to identify those with the frivolous post counts (i.e. someone with 1200 posts, but you rarely see them in the Target Area or Weather Lab). I am just wondering who seriously has competitions on post counts here in ST? If there really are people who are posting frivolously just to rank higher, then they shouldn't be here in the first place, and they shouldn't be that hard to spot (i.e. look at the post ratios).[/b]

If it quacks like a duck....

(Yes! I just took over sole possession of 77th place!)

[nickgrillo]

Originally posted by rdewey+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rdewey)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Michael Gribble
Maybe doing away with the post count will help keep worthless posts down.

On the contrary, it could just make it harder to identify those with the frivolous post counts (i.e. someone with 1200 posts, but you rarely see them in the Target Area or Weather Lab). I am just wondering who seriously has competitions on post counts here in ST? If there really are people who are posting frivolously just to rank higher, then they shouldn't be here in the first place, and they shouldn't be that hard to spot (i.e. look at the post ratios).[/b]

There are a few new members who have posted dramatically since joining - and many of the posts make no sense or are invaluable. Seriously, even after this restructuring - not much has changed with the quality of posts...

In absolutely no way am I knocking down ST, but I am just making a point here. Instead of getting rid of post counts, just get rid of the useless post/posters. There is plenty of mods on the board :wink: :wink:

[Dick McGowan]

Yeah, I can think of a few "worthless" posters on this board. Took the words right out of my mouth, Nick. 8)

[B Ozanne]

and many of the posts make no sense or are invaluable

Just so you know...invaluable is the same as valuable. Just like flammable and inflammable, those both mean something is likely to catch fire.

I'd like to stick up for ST here. I have never found a more structured, quality forum on the internet. At least, not for anything I've been interested in. Has anybody ever checked out the Wright Weather forum, for example? Its a cluster of frantic posting, aliases, and endless topics. Everytime a cloud pops up somebody starts a thread.

As for the post count, I don't care. A little dissapointed though since I am 2 away from 1000.

[Mikey Gribble]

A while back somebody brought up the idea of some sort of rating system where members can rank other members posts. I think this is the only way that you are going to do away with frivolous posts. Cracking down on the frivolous posters just isn't going to happen because it's arbitrary and nobody(moderators) wants to be the whistle blower. If you had a rating system, you could bring back the post count and stick the cumulative rating underneath it. A high post count with a low rating would make you look like a real jackass. Problem solved.

[Robert Dewey]

I agree with Michael Gribble. Would it be possible to put the ratio's up, or have some sort of rating system? I'd have no problem with that.

But then as Bill stated... ST is one of the HIGHEST quality forums out there, if not the highest quality. Heck, I'm even registered at various private investment group forums and business forums, and they don't even have the structure that ST has. While other forums consist of mostly frivolous posts, spammers, and pure idiots, at least on ST that group is by large the minority.

[Pat Lawrence]

I've a tendency to stay out of the meteorological discussions for the most part, so most of my posts will always find their home in the bar and grill section. I do tend to get a little chatty at times, but I couldn't care less about number of posts.

I do pay attention to the more meteorological sections of the board...but I'll leave most of the posting in these areas to others.

Sorry if my new comments have offended anybody:)

Pat

[Aaron Kennedy]

Next up... a ban on crazy hair avatars! ;)

Aaron

[Sam Sagnella]

Originally posted by rdewey
I agree with Michael Gribble. Would it be possible to put the ratio's up, or have some sort of rating system? I'd have no problem with that.

I agree - this seems like it would allow for some headway to be made against widespread frivolous postings.

[Shane Adams]

If we're going by ratios, I'll probably be banned then. Lately there's been squat that's interested me weather-wise, so almost all of my posting has been in the bar and grill section. I think the deal is, we're a large community, and some people are bound to be bored, annoyed, or uninterested in others' posts. My advice is just deal with it.

Let's be honest...Nick Grillo has been posting on this thread about members who are posting "dramatically" yet he himself sits atop the top 5 in posts on StormTrack. He managed to get another half dozen in on this thread alone, a thread about not posting so much useless stuff. I don't care, but this is a great example of the pot calling the kettle black, which is what this entire thread seems to be "boiling" down to IMO.

Post whatever you want, I don't care. But don't post about other people posting too much.

[Gabe Garfield]

Originally posted by Sam Sagnella
rdewey wrote:
I agree with Michael Gribble. Would it be possible to put the ratio's up, or have some sort of rating system? I'd have no problem with that.


I agree - this seems like it would allow for some headway to be made against widespread frivolous postings.



I hate to say it, but I think that's a really bad idea. It smacks of elitism.

As far as the mods decision is concerned, I wholeheartedly agree. I've been a member of ST for quite a while now, and somehow, only managed to post ~350 times. It's not that I don't read the forum; on the contrary, I read it quite often. It's just that, I don't feel the need to chime in on every single topic that pops up that is even remotely interesting. I suppose, to some degree, that it is a matter of time. But then again, there is some stuff that just plain doesn't interest me.

Quality vs quantity, you ask?

Who cares?

:D

Gabe

[Amos Magliocco]

Eliitsts!! High-browed ari-storm-crats! I'm shocked and appalled by the rampant nose-lifting! I'm going to stop (or start) buying (or not buying) all your DVDs, t-shirts, posters, pens, inflatable dolls, Hurricane Gilbert pics from Nebraska, and whatever else you sell (or fail to offer for sale).

How dare anybody lift a finger to try and improve the forum. Shame!

Amos "quitting ST (or rejoining)" Magliocco

[David Schuttler]

Originally posted by Sam Sagnella+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Sagnella)</div><!--QuoteBegin-rdewey
I agree with Michael Gribble. Would it be possible to put the ratio's up, or have some sort of rating system? I'd have no problem with that.

I agree - this seems like it would allow for some headway to be made against widespread frivolous postings.[/b]

hey :idea: and then well we could kick out the lowest score from ST each month and uh then well you see we could have it to just the high quality posters .... Yea thats the ticket :roll:

[Shane Adams]

This thread has officially spun out of control. (I don't care if this struck anyone as 'unneccesary')

[Andrew Khan]

Yes it has Shane. I never expected to see 3 pages of comments after I made my two. What is done is done, obviously the moderators think it's a wise choice, so let it be.

[nickgrillo]

Why can't we all just get along? Seriously, bros... Let's all go play some o dat funky music with the big George C, and go roll down the street on 24's with the big Snoop Dogg. Perhaps, let's all go chase Hurricane Katrina in central Nebraska and western Iowa, in brand new Mercedes' and Mustang GTs.

No more GC avatars - let's all change our avatars of the storms we catch. Hopefully, this time I could do that without ticking off some weird people who like to make threads on how useless I am, or how much I have to learn, or how much I will fail.

Yes, that post was useful :lol:

Back to something worthy, I guess...

[Gabe Garfield]

Originally posted by Amos Magliocco
How dare anybody lift a finger to try and improve the forum. Shame!

It sounds like you are referring to my post, so I'd like to respond (if you were not, I apologize in advance). I don't have any problems with improving the forum, but I'm uncertain that creating some sort of "rate the post" system will help matters at all. On paper, it seems like a great idea since posters that everyone agrees are posting worthless stuff will become pariahs in short order. However, what will happen when personal vendettas enter the equation? Will obviously quality posts be relegated to the "useless" category simply because of personal bias? I don't know, but it could happen if such a system were implemented.

I'm all for new ideas, but this just happens to be one I would recommend scratching off the list.

Gabe

[Robert Dewey]

To sum it up...

1) I don't think the post count should have been removed
2) I don't think people were competing for post counts
3) My George Clinton avatar is here to stay
4) If you don't like it, then tough
5) For those who didn't like the post count - no one forced you to look at it
6) I will attempt to shut my mouth on this topic, but it probably won't happen



I'm pretty sure the "banning crazy-hair avatars" thing was a joke. Don't worry; nothing is wrong with your avatar :)

Thanks to all of you for your input; however, the board will remain as-is.[/quote]

[Bryce Stone]

I liked the post count simply because, like Shane, I like stats. However, I'm certainly not going to cry now that it's gone. Perhaps a very acceptable solution would be for each member's post count to be visible to that member while they are logged in.

For those who want to keep up with other members, the post count is always available by searching the memberlist.

I'm number 86 on the total posts, but I like a different stat better . . . I was the 184th member to join out of 1080 members so far. So there. :)

(By the way, Gabe, Amos was being sarcastic but he forgot to insert his <sarcasm> tag)

[KMcCallister]

I agree with everybody.

Yeah, like tornados are cool and stuff!


Post #322 ....77th place. I'm going to catch up with you Gabe!

[Aaron Kennedy]

In other news... thundersnow with 60+kt gusts at Monarch Pass, CO.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/KMYP.html

[Amos Magliocco]

Gabe,

Me and the fourth beer were being extremely sarcastic. Sorry it didn't translate. I had nobody in mind when I posted that other than myself and my own self-amusement.

Amos

[Karen Politte]

In other news... thundersnow with 60+kt gusts at Monarch Pass, CO.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/KMYP.html

Now THAT'S why I read a weather forum :!: And I'm NOT being sarcastic! :lol:

We spent a good part of last night reading the heavy snow warnings, winter storm warnings and winter storm watch texts from areas such as our beloved Black Hills in SD. Deadwood in 9" of snow......wow. That would be absolutely beautiful. Time to update that "things I must do this winter" list......

8)

BTW whatever the mods do to help the board is absolutely nothing to do with me. I'll keep posting for my own amusement and that's that.

KR

[Gabe Garfield]

Me and the fourth beer were being extremely sarcastic. Sorry it didn't translate. I had nobody in mind when I posted that other than myself and my own self-amusement.

[annoying one-line response] LOL. No worries! [/annoying one-line response]

Gabe

[Melissa Moon]

Oops!

In case you're wondering why rdewey's post is suddenly missing, it's because I was trying to quote his post in a reply and I accidentally hit "edit" instead of "quote", and didn't realize it until after I hit "submit". I feel really bad about not having been more careful; nothing about his post violated any of Stormtrack's TOS. I just wanted to make that clear and to also apologize to everyone for this mistake. I'm still not used to the "edit" button being next to everyone's posts on the board, but from now on I will be much more careful when I am quoting others' posts.

Robert, I'm very sorry and I hope you will continue to contribute your ideas to this thread despite my slip-up.

[Geoff Boyle]

Oops!

In case you're wondering why rdewey's post is suddenly missing, it's because I was trying to quote his post in a reply and I accidentally hit "edit" instead of "quote", and didn't realize it until after I hit "submit". I feel really bad about not having been more careful; nothing about his post violated any of Stormtrack's TOS. I just wanted to make that clear and to also apologize to everyone for this mistake. I'm still not used to the "edit" button being next to everyone's posts on the board, but from now on I will be much more careful when I am quoting others' posts.

Robert, I'm very sorry and I hope you will continue to contribute your ideas to this thread despite my slip-up.


LOL, I've done that over 100x. It takes some getting use to.

No worries. 8)

[Tim Samaras]

My one and only worthless post (IMO..others may disagree):

I simply don't understand the wild color hair guy on a few avatars, and...

Aaron Kennedy...that walking hotdog avatar looks good enough to eat.

I forgot my lunch.

Tim

[Andrew Khan]

It's called the George Clinton epidemic, lol. No wonder you want to eat Aaron's hotdog man, your hungry! I seriously need to hear some of GC's music....all of these avatars over the past few months have increased my interest...

[fplowman]

wow.. post counts are gone... Far out dude..

[KMcCallister]

Post counts are not gone...what is this about?

[Carrie Halliday]

Post #322 ....77th place. I'm going to catch up with you Gabe!

Where are y'all finding all these stats at?
This will inform other posters who don't know either and are afraid to ask, so this IS an informative post. :wink:

I had no idea that post counts were gone, until this thread popped up.
Guess it just isn't pertinent to my stopping by here. But I also analyze stats, I am a sucker for trivial things. :lol:

[KMcCallister]

Post #322 ....77th place. I'm going to catch up with you Gabe!

Where are y'all finding all these stats at?
This will inform other posters who don't know either and are afraid to ask, so this IS an informative post. :wink:

I had no idea that post counts were gone, until this thread popped up.
Guess it just isn't pertinent to my stopping by here. But I also analyze stats, I am a sucker for trivial things. :lol:

http://stormtrack.org/forum/memberlist.php

Select sort method: all posts

Order: Descending

[Robert Dewey]

wow.. post counts are gone... Far out dude..

Watch yourself flowpan! :lol:

[nickgrillo]

It's called the George Clinton epidemic, lol. No wonder you want to eat Aaron's hotdog man, your hungry! I seriously need to hear some of GC's music....all of these avatars over the past few months have increased my interest...

Prior to the avatar "craze", I was at least somewhat familiar with GC's music - but a few nights ago, I downloaded some of his songs. Seriously, he's pretty dang good :lol:

"Do Fries Go With That Shake?", "Atomic Dog", and "Erotic City" are my favorites...

[Tony Laubach]

Hey guys,

Just a friendly reminder from a happy Skins fan to keep on this topic (post count). The avatars can easily be talked about in another topic.

Ciao,
Tony

[Mike Hollingshead]

Hey guys,

Just a friendly reminder from a happy Skins fan to keep on this topic (post count). The avatars can easily be talked about in another topic.

Ciao,
Tony

I thought it became being frivolous to be frivolous, instead of posting to post. Now that the post counts are gone we can all be frivolous for the sake of frivolousery. I missed out on this and wanted to be a part of it, so here is my post.....

The topic of this post(not the post itself) was done to get rid of excess silly postings and look where we(some of us, me included) take it. Sorry, I saw some of the fun on here and just had to jump on board. I say we fry the mods for starting this new thing of not showing posts, which in turn caused a post about it, which in turn caused a thread half full of goofyness. Someone needs to burn for what I had to read through on this topic.

*sarcasm back off*.....until next time......